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    Npp

    Looking at switching from my normal use of Deca to NPP. My question is this since it is a shorter ester is there more pain after injection and swelling. Have been using test/base and hurts more than I like. My cycle is going to be

    16 to 20 weeks.
    Test-750mg
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    NPP would be 10 weeks
    Deca would be 16 weeks

    By runing that long of cycle will the DECA give me just as good of results? I normaly do not have much water retention while taking Deca. I hear NPP is so much better would like input from people who have tried both.

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    I would just stick to NPP the entire time, or if you like Run NPP first 6-8 weeks, then that will buy you time for your deca ester to kick in, and you can discontinue eod injects with npp.

    but NPP to me is a cleaner feel and less blaot compound than its counter part.
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    I agree with OSL-Deca is good-but I much prefer NPP.OD

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    Good enough for me will run NPP 16 weeks then. Will get a slin pin for this!! LOL Have never tried quads only glutes so that may present an issue!

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    order here free shipping and cheap

    http://www.nationaldealz.com/Easytou...0_p/d4-106.htm
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    Thanks Bro! What gage would you sugest and length for quads? I use 1.5 length for glutes.

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    I use 25g inch for everything, but the link I posted is great for slin pins, and good for small groups IM like biceps, triceps and chest. As well as sub Q if you do any.

    You can also use slin for your lats and so on, leaner muscle groups just dimple the end of the needle down as far as you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    I use 25g inch for everything, but the link I posted is great for slin pins, and good for small groups IM like biceps, triceps and chest. As well as sub Q if you do any.

    You can also use slin for your lats and so on, leaner muscle groups just dimple the end of the needle down as far as you can.
    As always great advice!!

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    you just using the slin pin for the NPP right? and then pinning your test with a 25g or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla02 View Post
    you just using the slin pin for the NPP right? and then pinning your test with a 25g or so?
    No no mix both in the same syringe and use the 25g to pin both at the same time.

    Sometimes when you want you can load a cc of oil in a slin pin and hit smaller muscle groups

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    just go to walmart ask for 29g half inch insulin needles its like 13 bucks for 100 of them, also i can use the slin for ventrogluteal try that the muscle comes right to the surface when u sit on toliet and lean to opposite side ur hitting, be careful and aspirate theres more veins
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    deg going to try ventro glutes for next run, as my lab rats will be pinning eod for 8 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    No no mix both in the same syringe and use the 25g to pin both at the same time.

    Sometimes when you want you can load a cc of oil in a slin pin and hit smaller muscle groups

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    Planedon mixing together with Test, but when just NPP using slin pins.

    Quote Originally Posted by antonoverlord View Post
    just go to walmart ask for 29g half inch insulin needles its like 13 bucks for 100 of them, also i can use the slin for ventrogluteal try that the muscle comes right to the surface when u sit on toliet and lean to opposite side ur hitting, be careful and aspirate theres more veins
    Thanks for the info!

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    Not to get off topic but a question comes to mind regarding the above. Can we pre mix two our more compounds in a sterile vial to load a pin faster or its it recommended to load the pin in steps (x account from compound one, x from compound two, etc.). Could make back filing a slin faster too
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    Quote Originally Posted by suprfast View Post
    Not to get off topic but a question comes to mind regarding the above. Can we pre mix two our more compounds in a sterile vial to load a pin faster or its it recommended to load the pin in steps (x account from compound one, x from compound two, etc.). Could make back filing a slin faster too

    I wouldn't, I feel better pulling from 2 vials because I know exactly what the dosages will be
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    I wouldn't, I feel better pulling from 2 vials because I know exactly what the dosages will be
    Assuming that prevents separation and administering a weak dose this pin, strong one next pin?

    Makes sense. Thanks osl
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    No no mix both in the same syringe and use the 25g to pin both at the same time.

    Sometimes when you want you can load a cc of oil in a slin pin and hit smaller muscle groups

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    Thought so...thanks man

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    150mg of NPP M/W/F did me awesome.
    Havent used Z's NPP but the brand i used was painless. 25g 1.5in for glutes, 25g 1in for quads, 29g 1/2in for delts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hell View Post
    150mg of NPP M/W/F did me awesome.
    Havent used Z's NPP but the brand i used was painless. 25g 1.5in for glutes, 25g 1in for quads, 29g 1/2in for delts.
    ^^^ This-and what OSL stated about " small muscle groups" and Sub Q- which he is aware I love subQ.But- no sub Q using base/TNE guys-the solvents bite a bit and water based kinda crashes a tad.Recently I saw some pics of water based suspension that was downright scary looking. OUCH-FUCK THAT -Have Fun-OD

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    When are you starting your cycle, V?

    I'll be starting something similar, but with lower doses soon.
    Going to use npp instead of deca since its my first time. If I have any issues it can be corrected quicker that way. I say go with npp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenj View Post
    When are you starting your cycle, V?

    I'll be starting something similar, but with lower doses soon.
    Going to use npp instead of deca since its my first time. If I have any issues it can be corrected quicker that way. I say go with npp.
    Should start cycle Feb 1 2012

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    became an NPP convert after a good tittay scare last year form Deca

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    im interested in this as well... how much NPP per week will you be injecting and is it a good idea to inject everyday like tren or EOD?

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    Npp is the way to go. It definitely has more bite IMO than deca but the shorter ester is much better for you. When I run decca I shut down way too hard. Npp seems to be milder and leaves me with a better libido.

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    if you live in IL you can only get like 20 slin pinz :/

    but ya npp is killer. i was thinking about rinning it 300 a week is that too low guys?

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    I would run 100mg EOD

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