Cycle help before order?

**Deja Vu** · 12-18-2011, 05:52 PM

I'm new at this, and would like some advice on my third cycle. I'm posting in here because it will be uncle z gear. And most of the people who make the most sense run Uncle Z banners. If this is the wrong section feel free to move my post.

Stats:
Age: 37
years training: 2.5
previous cycles: 2) 1st was test e 500mg for 10 weeks, Second one I did not finish.
weight: 230-235 I started at 185 lbs with a huge gut. I looked like a fucking pregnent nail.
height: 6'3"
After my first cycle I got up to 245 from 230 as was much leaner. And I ran standard clomid, Ai, hcg pct. I ended up at about 240. I waited 10 months to do my next cycle because I knew once I started again I would not stop. Test is a miracle drug. I did not finish my second cycle because I got salmonilla from recalled peanut butter. AND IT FUCKING DESTROYED ME. I got down to about 205 210 and almost died from that shit. I am just now getting back to normal 4 months later. People were surprised to see me return to the gym after I lost almost everything I worked so hard for. But I refuse to let anything stand in my way of becoming a freak.

3rd cycle

weeks 1-19 600 mg EQ
weeks 1 -7 600 mg test
weeks 7-20 750 mg test
weeks 1 -20 300 mg deca
weeks 15 -19 50 mg d bol
weeks 3-20 aromasin 10 mg daily ( will adjust if needed)

pct: none I am on hrt 200mg weekly. I fucking LOVE test!! Makes me feel like a whole new man.

I've been reading about caber (sp) do I need to run this also with the deca? I am having a hard time locating it.

Most of the test all the deca and d-bol will be from Z, but the eq and some of the test is paramount. Will this make z not want me to do my cycle log in here? Because all the gear is not his? Thanks for any help. It must get old answering questions all the time. And I know I need to research caber alot more, and my basic knowledge of aas is limited. But thats why I'm here!!

**ontopthegame85** · 12-18-2011, 06:33 PM

Make sure you stop the deca two weeks before ending the test to prevent deca dick....And I would pick one or the other deca or eq....Why both,overkill.I would personally run d-bol week 1-4 to jumpstart the longer ester drug's.

**ontopthegame85** · 12-18-2011, 06:34 PM

nvm your on hrt so the deca issue isn't really a issue

**Deja Vu** · 12-18-2011, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

Make sure you stop the deca two weeks before ending the test to prevent deca dick....And I would pick one or the other deca or eq....Why both,overkill.I would personally run d-bol week 1-4 to jumpstart the longer ester drug's.

Was considering the deca for the healing properties, to see if it helps my shoulders and elbows. Roofing alot this time of the year so it feels like someone beat my elbows with a baseball bat.

**heavyiron** · 12-18-2011, 06:55 PM

Cycle looks good. The Deca is plenty for your joints. Even 200mg weekly will work for that so if you need to drop down the Deca dose because of sides no biggie.

Caber or Prami for Prolactin issues but keeping your AI dose higher you may not need anything for prolactin. I would bump up your AI a bit for this reason.

**Repo** · 12-19-2011, 02:44 AM

I would work hCG into this cycle as well ... "for sure."

With the doses you're running - I would run 500iu's twice a week
throughout the whole cycle - stopping 4 days prior to commencing SERM.

You could also do an hCG blasting phase at the end of the cycle.

The reasons for doing so would be...

To test the testes - to make sure they are still able to produce testosterone at their maximum capacity.

And to stimulate the pituitary - which will provide the material the testes need to produce testosterone.

At the very least - I would run your hCG throughout the cycle at 500iu's twice a week.

And follow ontopthegame85's advise about stopping deca two weeks before test along with Heavy's advise as well.

You should make some nice gains from this.

**ontopthegame85** · 12-19-2011, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Deja Vu

Was considering the deca for the healing properties, to see if it helps my shoulders and elbows. Roofing alot this time of the year so it feels like someone beat my elbows with a baseball bat.

I was a roofing laborer a while back.I hated it I was so sore everyday I could barley workout

**Deja Vu** · 12-19-2011, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Cycle looks good. The Deca is plenty for your joints. Even 200mg weekly will work for that so if you need to drop down the Deca dose because of sides no biggie.

Caber or Prami for Prolactin issues but keeping your AI dose higher you may not need anything for prolactin. I would bump up your AI a bit for this reason.

So I can wait to take the caber if I develop sides. Will bump my AI from the start as you said, better safe than sorry. Thanks for the help.

**Deja Vu** · 12-19-2011, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Repo

I would work hCG into this cycle as well ... "for sure."

With the doses you're running - I would run 500iu's twice a week
throughout the whole cycle - stopping 4 days prior to commencing SERM.

You could also do an hCG blasting phase at the end of the cycle.

The reasons for doing so would be...

To test the testes - to make sure they are still able to produce testosterone at their maximum capacity.

And to stimulate the pituitary - which will provide the material the testes need to produce testosterone.

At the very least - I would run your hCG throughout the cycle at 500iu's twice a week.

And follow ontopthegame85's advise about stopping deca two weeks before test along with Heavy's advise as well.

You should make some nice gains from this.

Would I need the HCG even thou I am HRT?

**Deja Vu** · 12-19-2011, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

I was a roofing laborer a while back.I hated it I was so sore everyday I could barley workout

It's rough for sure, summer is by far the worst. If I get enough food in I feel fine. But the Jakc3d I take helps too.

**heavyiron** · 12-19-2011, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Deja Vu

So I can wait to take the caber if I develop sides. Will bump my AI from the start as you said, better safe than sorry. Thanks for the help.

Yes as long as you are on a good AI dose.

**Deja Vu** · 12-19-2011, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Yes as long as you are on a good AI dose.

I run a liquid aromasin exemestane. Again thanks for taking the time to answer the same old questions.

What about the cycle log if the eq and some of the test is not from z? Should I just run it in the anabolic forum or would here be ok?

**heavyiron** · 12-19-2011, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Deja Vu

I run a liquid aromasin exemestane. Again thanks for taking the time to answer the same old questions.

What about the cycle log if the eq and some of the test is not from z? Should I just run it in the anabolic forum or would here be ok?

You may post here brother.

**vannesb** · 12-20-2011, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

Make sure you stop the deca two weeks before ending the test to prevent deca dick....And I would pick one or the other deca or eq....Why both,overkill.I would personally run d-bol week 1-4 to jumpstart the longer ester drug's.

He is crusing after cycle no need to stop deca 2 weeks out.

**PUMP_THAT** · 12-20-2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

I was a roofing laborer a while back.I hated it I was so sore everyday I could barley workout

My brother runs a roofing company, & it's though work for sure man.
Specially working in hot weather

**Deja Vu** · 12-21-2011, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

You may post here brother.

Excellet sir ty. I will be starting early Jan.

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