
so was wondering how this sounds for my first cycle
Testosterone enanthate 250mg 2x a week
Nandrolone Decaonate (Deca) 200mg 2x a week
METHANDIENONE 10mg tabs 4 tabs every day
then clomid at the end was thinking of doing it for 12 weeks or is that a tad bit long? and besides clomid adn milk thistle is there anything else you guys could suggest i take? any suggestions welcome thanks guys!!


Sound's like a plan run the deca for ten week's,and make sure you run the test two week's past the deca.Your dick will thank you later.Start the clomid three week's past last test shot.Good luck!!
Looks like a decent first cycle.. Keep us updated.. VE
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Looks like fun but a little heavy for a first run I'd say

well my goal is to get to about 250+ im right now 6' and 221 lbs at 13% body fat but i was wondering if i needed anything else for PCT or what i could take at the end to keep most of the gains. i also got some nolvadex and proviron. just wanna make sure to keep the side effects to a minimum i also went and got some saw palmetto and cranberry extract my friend suggested that stuff. im goin more for strength gains then anything. thanks again for any advice!
i believe DECA should be ran for 12 weeks minimum.
ur PCT should be NOLVA 20mg ED for 4 weeks and Clomid 50mg ED 4 weeks.
I wouldnt run Nolva pct I'd keep it on hand for gyno I'd run clomid for pct 100 100 50 50 try fomeron on cycle and pct I also wouldn't run deca first cycle u might get sides u don't want or don't no how to deal w if your diet and training is good u should have no problem gaining 30 pounds from a test dbol cycle

so i need to wait about 3 weeks after my last injection before i run clomid then? and is there anything to take to help keep the gains?
Hcg will help and Nolva 2 weeks after last pin in my opinion also former on as it raises t and is suicidal my buddy's running and loving I'm trying it thus cycle coming up


If this is your first cycle stick with straight test bro to see how your body reacts! ! How old are you? Also Mg of test and Mg of deca not a good combo if you are stuck on running that. I would run Mg Test and 400mg deca i always try to stick to a 2 to 1 ratio. If you are looking for that kind of weight gain look at dbol then, and deca 12 weeks it does not even kick in until week 5 or 6.
Then a good PCT
VB
Last edited by vannesb; 04-07-2012 at 11:54 PM.
I would listen to vannesb. Some guys probably do fine with a first cycle like that, but I'm the conservative type that thinks you can get great gains from a test only cycle, not to mention how much easier it is to manage one drug the first time vs dealing with deca or tren plus test.
I didn't see any mention of an AI either. Don't make the mistake of waiting until you have gyno symptoms before starting an AI. Keep your estradiol levels within the male range.
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There ya go bro ^ these 2 know their stuff

awesome advice guys thanks!! im 31 by the way and what do you guys suggest for a AI?

and does anyone else know of a good site to get aromasin from i couldnt find it in unclez?
Honestly, for a first cycle, this sounds like shit. You could literally research for 30 seconds and find out that a first cycle should ONLY consist of test. You probably dont know why, so research, and FIGURE IT OUT.
I've ran several cycles, up to 4 compounds at a time, and NOTHING was like my first test cycle of only test.
People going to hate because i say it how it is. All i have to say is GET THE FUCK OVER IT.. p.s. I <3 Neg rep bitches
Tgb supplements formeron for ai liquid pp tastes awful though