Thread: Allow me to explain... PLEASE READ

Thanks for the post.
I think it's safe to say that you don't get to the level that z is at by scamming. Do things happen? Of course, even to the best sponsors. But the ones that take care of the issues are the ones that stick around.

I agree. Last i heard, bashing really does not speed things up.

Originally Posted by striker1488

I agree. Last i heard, bashing really does not speed things up.

This^^^ It is not helpful when we are trying to help them.

I spoke to OD about it and he gave me his advice. But some times I don't know how to take OD I don't know if the guy is pissed or it is just his writing style.

It's just that he has to communicate in writing. Sometimes, our intonations and expressions are lost through text. OD is one of the most stand up guys on this board. He has a tough job and does a really great job at it.

and thats why we just got to be patient. 50000 pm's to you guys, im sure gets frustrating, especially when its from 10 people.

Originally Posted by exphys88

It's just that he has to communicate in writing. Sometimes, our intonations and expressions are lost through text. OD is one of the most stand up guys on this board. He has a tough job and does a really great job at it.

NO ex don't take what I said in the wrong way I never said OD wasn't a stand up guy. I just don't know how to take his reply's. He reminds me of someone I know very dearly. Very straight to the point and hard to figure out. I am not worried about it.. I have spoken to him a few times. He has always been more than willing to throw me advice. I think OD is a great guy.. Me saying what I said was meant well fuck not sure how to put it in words.. I guess some times, I will put it like this. like he doesn't have time with trivial questions. I know I am new and I go to him and some of the other guys because of their experience levels and what maybe trivial to them is not to me.. I am learning. So yeah I probably ask some stupid fucking questions. But on that note everyone of them have given me solid advice and has always dealt with me respectfully. AND has had my health as a top priority. I guess it is me though sometime I feel as If I may be a bother and I don't want to come across like that so it is probably my own interpretation on how I think I maybe bothering him. You know what I am saying... And I will keep asking him ? Cause I respect him opinion.

cross80,

You explained OD to a "T". He is a stand up guy, as good as they come. I have become a very close friend with him here, and know what he goes through on a daily basis with regards to his personal life as well as his responsibilities to Z and the ZTeam. I don't know some days how he does it. We chat almost daily, at first some of his responses kind of threw me for a loop, but I have learned that he is straight and to the point on things. And the man is as honest as the day is long, you won't find better here. I can always tell how he is doing by his replies to our almost daily PM's. Somedays the responses are quite in depth, those are the good days for him. Other days it is a very short response, but still it is well thought out and honest. I know these are the days that his health may not be 100% or he is swamped with Z business or just life in general.

He asks everyday how my family is, and I ask about his because that is the #1 priority to both of us. He is a little bit older then I am and has become a real confidant to me, a big brother you might say.

I'm not here bashing you, I have seen you post here and you are always very respectful even under difficult circumstances. I just wanted to stop in and give my support for my friend OD and let people know what a stand up guy he is.

Originally Posted by cross80

NO ex don't take what I said in the wrong way I never said OD wasn't a stand up guy. I just don't know how to take his reply's. He reminds me of someone I know very dearly. Very straight to the point and hard to figure out. I am not worried about it.. I have spoken to him a few times. He has always been more than willing to throw me advice. I think OD is a great guy.. Me saying what I said was meant well fuck not sure how to put it in words.. I guess some times, I will put it like this. like he doesn't have time with trivial questions. I know I am new and I go to him and some of the other guys because of their experience levels and what maybe trivial to them is not to me.. I am learning. So yeah I probably ask some stupid fucking questions. But on that note everyone of them have given me solid advice and has always dealt with me respectfully. AND has had my health as a top priority. I guess it is me though sometime I feel as If I may be a bother and I don't want to come across like that so it is probably my own interpretation on how I think I maybe bothering him. You know what I am saying... And I will keep asking him ? Cause I respect him opinion.

no worries, I didn't take that in a negative way. I can't imagine how many pm's that guy gets. he probably gets 10/day from just me lol. But, he always responds and his communication is exactly why this outfit runs so well.

It's all good-no worries.Yes- many times I am short and to the point as I am taking care of MANY-and I want RESULTS. These guys up here are PRIORITY to me and I do everything I can to make sure they get both service and quality.At times my eyes just plain give out due to my situation ( sorry)
BTW-when I go to a strip bar -I get PUSSY -lots of PUSSY.Maybe you just need the ALPHA ZILLA training LOL. All is good guys- The team and Z is on top of EVERYTHING-Thank You-OD

Originally Posted by ordawg1

It's all good-no worries.Yes- many times I am short and to the point as I am taking care of MANY-and I want RESULTS. These guys up here are PRIORITY to me and I do everything I can to make sure they get both service and quality.At times my eyes just plain give out due to my situation ( sorry)
BTW-when I go to a strip bar -I get PUSSY -lots of PUSSY.Maybe you just need the ALPHA ZILLA training LOL. All is good guys- The team and Z is on top of EVERYTHING-Thank You-OD

Well then you need to take me to the strip club just can't tell my old lady she might just cut my throat when I am asleep hahaha.. So this young buck how its done.....

Originally Posted by cross80

Well then you need to take me to the strip club just can't tell my old lady she might just cut my throat when I am asleep hahaha.. So this young buck how its done.....

WE wll do that-maybe bring her along . Gals like chatting with old Alphas -Thanks-OD
BTW- is better to call her your " bride" -" ol lady" is not all that cool- plus -I am betting she is a very beautiful " young lady" -Lesson # one

I would like to make two very unbaised points here. I have not ordered from Z but have thought about it several times. the first time was like 5 years ago on another board(which in itself is telling, the guy has something figured out.)

1- I understand MR. GUNZ frustration. I have been in a situation that I felt like I was being taken advantage off. I surely do not know the details of the current situtation. but when people get frustrated they loss focus. they mention to0 many details to too many people. Heavy mentioned this in another thread. When dealling with AAS, mail fraud and other felonies please remember these can actions can result in significant legal issues. Airing out your dry laundry only hurts everyone... so when your frusterated and want to pop... hold back a little.

2- on the other hand... you hear reps or people that are faithful to there source come on and say "well all sources have issues from time to time". I have always found this statement a little unsettling. I have been ordering aas for almost 10 years and I have used only 6 sources... they have all been really great, all had "issues" and up to now they only reason I have left a source is because they have failed. So a little airing out your dirty laundry helps everyone...

this is a hard balance to find. but keep your cool and take everything with a grain of salt...We are all dealing with monies that is significant and no one wants to loose money... but I would have rather lost every penny I have spent on aas/growth/others then to incur a single legal issue... I realize I may be slighly paranoid but it has served me well.

U are right when things are going smooth everyone is happy I love z posts all day but any little snag and z's a scammer that's not right

OD is the man. He helped me out with some great advice when I was feeling lost on what I should do. He is a great guy and we are all lucky to have him on this board.


Oh and I'm coming with you guys to the strip club.

Great post cross...You understand the way things work unlike some assholes..

Originally Posted by Vibrant

OD is the man. He helped me out with some great advice when I was feeling lost on what I should do. He is a great guy and we are all lucky to have him on this board.


Oh and I'm coming with you guys to the strip club.

Well ill make this my first and last post about this , I too am in the same boat as a few guys on here and waiting but i have never posted once about it . I have received my packages before and my last one was very substantial and only waiting on a small part . what i do is talk to OD only no disrespect to the other reps who i have spoken to on other subjects just that ive found a connection with him and yes CROSS i know what u mean about his answers but thats OD lol i take it in no way bad and most of the other times we talk its all about fun and jokes and real life. SHIT happens if i lost out would i like it no but it comes with the territory if u dont like it see your local if it became repetitive thats diff but as said before Z doesnt own the feds , mail services and other things that come with this but trys all that is possible to send test packages and find new way wtf else do you want , were not buying shit from walmart and everyone know why they came here . but we are lucky enuff to have a place that comes thru a lot and an owner and reps who will try over and over to make good . I do understand the other side and i think if any of you who read all that CROSS said and other posts, youll get it too . like it was said id rather lose a few bucks then make a legal issue the only true loser in this is Z this is still a business .now where are we seeing these strippers

I don't know about everyone else but I'm not so much worried about getting "scammed" or "ripped off" it doesn't seem like it would be worth it to Z to do that. I'm more worried about slipping threw the cracks and being forgot about. Seems like he has alot on his plate and shit happens.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

This^^^ It is not helpful when we are trying to help them.

It is also against the rules if i am not mistaken

Originally Posted by autodad

I don't know about everyone else but I'm not so much worried about getting "scammed" or "ripped off" it doesn't seem like it would be worth it to Z to do that. I'm more worried about slipping threw the cracks and being forgot about. Seems like he has alot on his plate and shit happens.

We love you bro ( no homo-strippers only) just reach out and touch a rep. Never forget you-that is why Z is so big and has so many reps. One must remember-there are many -many orders handled each and every day. You mostly see the ones we are having issues with. Plus- you can also see we are dealing with it. Anybody that has a legit compalint- acts with respect-is taken care of. We also understnd is easy to become upset. We will listen and then go to work on your problem .In the end- that is what we do. That is what being a good rep/mod is all about. Plus- many of you guys are friends and like family-Thanks-OD

What rules? Rules against complaining? I love Z gear, no really I do. It's the service I have issues with.

I'm beginning to hold a grudge against my mail man

I know for an absolute fact that Z has sent my package. I will not go into detail but I do know for sure it was sent to me. What happened after he sent it is out of his control. He did ship it out. If anyone doubts that their item has been sent pm me. He is honest.

Originally Posted by vicious 13

I'm beginning to hold a grudge against my mail man

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I live in a smaller town and I sometimes think the lady at the post office gets a little suspicious when I get packs every couple months from out of the country. (Every once in a while there is a guy there too, but he never says much, just, "oh from ...(location) huh, cool, have a nice day".) She never questions it but sometimes she gives me these looks..lol. Maybe I just get a little paranoid. But once I sign that damn handheld its all good!! I just walk out nice and calm then once I get to the car I rush home (not speeding of course, don't wanna get pulled over with the goodies in my car), but once I get home, you better be damn sure I rip open that pack faster than I rip the clothes off the misses when I'm on tren and my heart is once again filled with love and joy!! LMAO.

Great post striker - you hit it spot-on!

Z does care a lot about all of his customers - and it bothers him "just as much" if an order does not go right.

His english isn't perfect but that's one of the coolest things about him ... and you are right about being able
to at least tell that he is sincere.

All and all - he's a really down to earth guy (like most members here) doing his best to make everyone happy.

Well said Striker.

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is my English really so bad as cross wrote : and he apologized even though his english and writing is hard to understand....

damn I have to work on that as well

z.

Originally Posted by Uncle Z.

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is my English really so bad as cross wrote : and he apologized even though his english and writing is hard to understand....

damn I have to work on that as well

z.

Shit bro you just worry about the important shit.. Getting your written english down is the last thing you need to worry about... Just keep doing what you do. And we can worry about the rest.... I am just ready to try some of your great products... Get ready maybe I can put the OD to shame one day.. j/k although he has me by a few inches in height I think I can catch him in size....

Originally Posted by Repo

Great post striker - you hit it spot-on!

Z does care a lot about all of his customers - and it bothers him "just as much" if an order does not go right.

His english isn't perfect but that's one of the coolest things about him ... and you are right about being able
to at least tell that he is sincere.

All and all - he's a really down to earth guy (like most members here) doing his best to make everyone happy.

Well said Striker.

Thanks Repo. There is a few folks waiting on different things. we should all realize its not anybody on the teams' fault, and thinking that i am the only one in the world that doesnt have his stuff would just make me a douche bag. Keep doing what your doing guys!

Z's written English is sadly better than most Americans lol