Do you know any pros? What do they use? I want to know what the reality is. And I dont mean roids only - growth hormone, insulin, IGF-factors (is that right?), anything, .....
thanks
Martin
thanks
Martin
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just a simple question for you guys
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Hmmm, let me see...
-steroids...many at once
-GH
-insulin
-IGF-1
-synthol (not all, but some)
-certain prostaglandins
-clenbuterol
-thyroid
-DNP (some)
-cytadren
-nolvadex
-clomid
-HCG
-arimidex
-nubain (some)
-diuretics
-plasma expanders
Shall I go on...
-steroids...many at once
-GH
-insulin
-IGF-1
-synthol (not all, but some)
-certain prostaglandins
-clenbuterol
-thyroid
-DNP (some)
-cytadren
-nolvadex
-clomid
-HCG
-arimidex
-nubain (some)
-diuretics
-plasma expanders
Shall I go on...
crackerjack414
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I agrea with gopro there are even some new exotic drugs that are coming to light due to all of the aids research. Alot of those guys also use ghb and crap like that
Any comments on this?
Ive heard that Markus Ruhl is now training in Thailand, there s a team of top doctors who try the latest/the newest, unknown/ medicaments on him. I mean medicaments provoking unbelievable muscle gains. Is that just a gossip?
PS: Do you know any pro personnaly?
Martin
Ive heard that Markus Ruhl is now training in Thailand, there s a team of top doctors who try the latest/the newest, unknown/ medicaments on him. I mean medicaments provoking unbelievable muscle gains. Is that just a gossip?
PS: Do you know any pro personnaly?
Martin
There are pros on a couple boards that post sometimes, not neccessarily the most high profile ones, but probably half of them are open to each other to some degree about what they use and how much, national level guys are easy to come buy who will talk about "theoretical" stacks, since none of them actually "use steroids" of course 
Paul Dillett said alot if it depends on how much money one has, GH etc gets expensive, where mexican roids are cheap.
Paul Dillett said alot if it depends on how much money one has, GH etc gets expensive, where mexican roids are cheap.
I used to be good friends with former IFBB pro, Tom Terwilliger...but you guys probably don't even remember him. When I lived in California I was especially close with Nasser El Sonbaty...one of the nicest and most honest people you can meet. We talked about everything! I also got to talk with Flex, Chris Cormier, Dave Fisher, Vic richards, and several others.
And yes, beyond my list, new drugs are entering the scene all the time. However, what is still the biggest thing? Testosterone...and lots of it!
And yes, beyond my list, new drugs are entering the scene all the time. However, what is still the biggest thing? Testosterone...and lots of it!
Tommy did only 4-5 pro shows. I think his last show was the 1991 Olympia. Best placing was a 3rd at the Niagra Falls Grand Prix...no longer being held. Awesome physique...great aesthetics...great poser!
No, Nasser would eat 500-600 g of protein per day!
Gopro, thats good, I envy you.
You re in contact with such "real" BBers. For me it s just a dream. You now, a 21-year old guy from Europe. The largest man Ive ever seen directly is my dealer, who is pretty good from my perspective. Im happy that I can contact him through e-mails and he seems to be able to help me. And if you have access to such BBers as you have mentioned, it s even better. Ya. You re in the center of happenning. Isnt that a thing to envy?
Martin
Martin
Hey TP, wtf did you mean, "did I take anything?" 
Well, I have to admit, it was fun having Nasser as a friend. Meeting and hanging out with Flex, Chris, Milos, and others was alot of fun, however, they were not even close to being the most knowledgable people I have met (in regards to BBing). Most of the pros do not train all that hard or eat all that well. Alot of them get by on amazing genetics and tons of drugs. Every hardcore bodybuilder, however, should go to Golds Venice and train, just once. Its quite a "trip!"
Prostaglandins are hormone like substances in the body that perform many different functions...some good, some bad. Some specific prostaglandins are involved in the growth of muscle tissue and have been injected in an attempt to achieve greater hypertrophy.
Plasma expanders are used before a show. They are drugs that pull water from compartments underneath the skin (subcutaneous) and push them into the vascular system. This will have the duel benefit of making you look "dryer" and more vascular. Many pros have turned to these drugs in place of diuretics.
I still envy you.
just an unimportant note:
what is lol???
what is lol???
thanks lol