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    Quote Originally Posted by Vick View Post
    Oh wow this brings back memories of the summer of 95. Bill Mougios and Vipharm were the best source at the time and I had HG everything from Organon and Schering and all the best books from Dan Duchaine(RIP) who suggested 2g/week was a good cycle and Muscle Media 2000.

    I gained 30 lbs in 30 days from 165 shredded like a marine to 195 with 3 purple claw marks on my shoulders and I'm still 195 today.

    I remember my first present that said Happy Birthday from Vlassis with all these bubble wrapped and packaged taped boxes I had to use scissors to open.

    test cyp/test e/sust 250/deca/nolvadex

    I wouldnt have used sust 250 and I would have used deca separately with winny and anavar. I also would have used proviron and kicked off with dbol and anadrol.
    This is the guy that told me take SERM's during my cycle and save the A.I. for PCT. I wonder which of those books that came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crudadillamonkey View Post
    This is the guy that told me take SERM's during my cycle and save the A.I. for PCT. I wonder which of those books that came from.
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    Wow more google searches good work Vick! What Ai do you run? What Pct? This ass clown just cuts and pastes crap on everythread.

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    If I could do it all over again I would have learned as much as I could before touching any gear. There is so much to understand and it's very easy to f-ck yourself up if you don't do it right.

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    This was just a few months ago for me. I would have used a SERM for PCT immediately and not a month after my 'natty' PCT. Found out my test dropped from 360 to 324. Thankfully that isn't too much, and I hope it's recovered fully now in my third week of using torem, but I wouldn't play around like that if I could go back. I'm sure I lost some gains, too.

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    Lack of research is what most people would like to change about their first cycle. So if you are thinking about a cycle, do as much research as possible and have answers for ALL the questions before putting hormones into your body.

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    I would have eased back on my calories around week 7 or 8 and done more cardio throughout my bulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhaluv View Post
    what would it have been?
    Also, how much did you gain & keep on your first cycle?
    I would have run it even longer then I did.

    I gained 27lbs on my first cycle and I kept around 18lbs of that once water and excess fat was burned.

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    I would have used less test or more AI (more AI would be pref)... Stretch marks are still hanging round 10 years later.

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    I would have done it when I was younger! LOL!

    I also would have backed off the weight a little bit and increased the reps and sets instead, not pushed my bench press up so quickly (even though it felt great up until it hurt!).

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    I would not have done an oral winstrol-only cycle.

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    definetly research alot before even thinking of using AAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    I would not have done an oral winstrol-only cycle.
    Hard on the liver and expensive for no results/gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astroretnal View Post
    Hard on the liver and expensive for no results/gains.
    Hard on my liver? Yes, I'm sure it was.

    Expensive? No, it was free from a friend.

    Results/Gains? Significant strength gains, skin tightened and muscles felt even harder.

    Problem? My d*ck wouldn't work and interior elbow pain did not go away completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    Hard on my liver? Yes, I'm sure it was.

    Expensive? No, it was free from a friend.

    Results/Gains? Significant strength gains, skin tightened and muscles felt even harder.

    Problem? My d*ck wouldn't work and interior elbow pain did not go away completely.
    I was stating why I would not do a winny only cycle.

    So, what would you have done differently? add test so your dick would work?

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