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    Super DMZ at 19?

    Ok so here is the deal basically I am wanting to try the super DMZ stack from Ironmaglabs. I have the entire stack ready to go. I have gotten some negative feedback when I posted this in the supplements section. I was told I should probably post this in the anabolic section to gain some better insight so here I am. Below is my original post in the supplement section.

    SUPER-DMZ Rx? My daily logs
    Hello everyone I am 19 years old I have been lifting for about 7 months now. I have lifted periodically in the past and I am looking for something to take my fitness to the next level. I have decided to try the Super DMZ stack. I am going to be taking all of the products in the listed in the stack in the recommended dosages. I have been doing research on Super DMZ and other similar products and have determined this is the best one for me. I am not here to get ridiculed or talked down to so if you are just going to be rude please don't even bother posting on this thread. However, any helpful tips or suggestions are more than welcome as this is my first time messing with any serious supplements. I will be posting on this forum periodically throughout my cycle to keep you updated on my progress as well as during my post cycle to let you know what I am able to maintain of my gains. This is meant to be an in depth review of the product to help others like myself out there who decide to try this product, as well as an attempt to get some educational and helpful feedback from more experienced lifters. I am 6'0". 9.2% body fat. 175lbs. The most current max on bench press was 235 lbs. Let's see what this product can do for me. Even though I am taking the recommended products for safety I am also going to take Milk Thistle extract (1000 mg) starting 5 days before my workout and continue to take it throughout the entire cycle and post cycle. I will starting the Super DMZ one week from today April 16, 2012. I am beginning this post a week early to see if there are any suggestions I should consider before starting this.Hello everyone I am 19 years old I have been lifting for about 7 months now. I have lifted periodically in the past and I am looking for something to take my fitness to the next level. I have decided to try the Super DMZ stack. I am going to be taking all of the products in the listed in the stack in the recommended dosages. I have been doing research on Super DMZ and other similar products and have determined this is the best one for me. I am not here to get ridiculed or talked down to so if you are just going to be rude please don't even bother posting on this thread. However, any helpful tips or suggestions are more than welcome as this is my first time messing with any serious supplements. I will be posting on this forum periodically throughout my cycle to keep you updated on my progress as well as during my post cycle to let you know what I am able to maintain of my gains. This is meant to be an in depth review of the product to help others like myself out there who decide to try this product, as well as an attempt to get some educational and helpful feedback from more experienced lifters. I am 6'0". 9.2% body fat. 175lbs. The most current max on bench press was 235 lbs. Let's see what this product can do for me. Even though I am taking the recommended products for safety I am also going to take Milk Thistle extract (1000 mg) starting 5 days before my workout and continue to take it throughout the entire cycle and post cycle. I will start the Super DMZ one week from today April 16, 2012. I am beginning this post a week early to see if there are any suggestions I should consider before starting this.

    So obviously my delima here is am I really to young? I will be turning 20 this November. I feel like my body has grown as much as it is going to with the previous measures I have given you. Height wise at least. I am 6'0" my father is 6'3" and is the tallest male in my family so I am kind of genetically screwed as far as that goes. No one in my family is muscular so I don't really have anything I can judge that off of... My father weighs in at around 215 but he has a gut and is a bit taller. I am not dead set on taking them right now. However, I am taking these supplements I have paid for them and I have done a healthy amount of research. Now it is just a matter of when I am taking them. My original plan was next Monday. Please give me some input and honest advice from people who KNOW what they are talking about. I do not want some person who knows the side effect list of steroids and can read it off to me talking about how I should stay away from the dark side and its not worth it and blah blah blah. I need honest answers from people who have taken them and people in my situation.

    Also one thing that IS worth noting is that I an only doing 1 cycle and then never touching the stuff again I would like to get a nice boost and work on maintaining what I get I am NOT obsessed with getting huge I just want to look great and be a bit better than average.

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    The reason people will tell you to wait is because your body is most likely not fully developed, and, this includes your endocrine system.
    At such a young age, you have so much natural test in your body that you should take advantage of it.
    As far as saying this will be a "one and done", I guarantee you will cycle again after this. No one goes out after one run.
    If you are going to go through with it, at least educated yourself(which you seem to have done)

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    ^^Good advice.

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    Thank you for such a hasty reply. Based on what you and a few others have told me I think I have decided I am going to order some cell mass and give it one last good hard month to try and get some more natural gains out of my body. If the cell mass is making a notable difference within a month I may prolong the DMZ cycle. However, If I try this and just don't get encouraging results at this point I think I will switch to the DMZ. My diet is spot on and I have very solid workouts. The professional trainer at my college regulates both aspects for me. I am taking protein after my workouts and a caesin blend before bed. Is there any other advice or input you guys can give me? All advice is readily welcomed. I want to read what you more experienced people have to say.

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    Atta boy. Just stick with getting in that protein, and eating quality food: beef, chicken, eggs, oats, rice, peanut butter, etc. You're only a beginner once, so take full advantage of the opportunity and lift big and eat bigger.

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    Okay, I'll be the one and say it... your too young!! Now, with that being said I started PHs when I was 20/21 also and wish I had waited. But really bro, Ben is correct with what he told you. Your not done growing naturally! As far as height goes... male bodies continue to grow in height up till they are 25 so there is some hope for you getting taller. Thought I would address that real quick. On to other things... 7 months of consistent training? Off and on before that? Dude, really, you haven't reached your genetic max yet. Don't mess with this stuff yet! I'm telling you from personal experience it can really fuck you up if you start too young. You need to eat big, train hard, and grow!! Do that for a few years and THEN if your not happy look into a supplement like this. As for a 'one and done'... its possible but unlikely! Cause when you come off this stuff and you lose some of your gains you won't be happy...

    What does your PCT look like?? Do you have a SERM?? I don't see that listed...

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    He is too young, but 99.9% of the time they are going to do it anyhow.

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    He is too young, but 99.9% of the time they are going to do it anyhow.
    I agree... however if he is gonna do it then I feel we should help him be as smart about it as possible and make sure he knows what hr needs to recover fully.

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    1) u are not gonna do only one cycle. U don't even believe that.

    2) I started at 20/21 for sports and we had no idea what the fuck we were doing. Cash/Bottle/inject - - that was about the extent of it. U seem like youare read up on it - so thats good.

    3) I dont think super DMZ is your best choice for an oral only intro. (keep exploring..

    4) If I just had to, I would just buy some Halotesin for preworkout which can create monster workouts. Learn to squat till you puke, deadlift till you pass out, and eat like a fucking warrior. Looking back, thats one thing i regret whole heartedly. The Diet. Mine was deplorable. We'd take roids and workout hard then eat Wendy's. Waste.... Diet is 70-80% of it man.

    5) If you can hold off just a touch longer - like one more year, be worth IMO. You're natty test is on a roll right now. Don't fuck with it yet. Get some blood work done (there is a sticky around here somewhere) and see what youre test looks like. Bet its high.

    6) either way you are way ahead of most kids your age. Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by tallguy34 View Post
    okay, i'll be the one and say it... Your too young!! Now, with that being said i started phs when i was 20/21 also and wish i had waited. But really bro, ben is correct with what he told you. Your not done growing naturally! As far as height goes... Male bodies continue to grow in height up till they are 25 so there is some hope for you getting taller. Thought i would address that real quick. On to other things... 7 months of consistent training? Off and on before that? Dude, really, you haven't reached your genetic max yet. Don't mess with this stuff yet! I'm telling you from personal experience it can really fuck you up if you start too young. You need to eat big, train hard, and grow!! Do that for a few years and then if your not happy look into a supplement like this. As for a 'one and done'... Its possible but unlikely! Cause when you come off this stuff and you lose some of your gains you won't be happy...

    What does your pct look like?? Do you have a serm?? I don't see that listed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scharfy View Post
    1) u are not gonna do only one cycle. U don't even believe that.

    2) I started at 20/21 for sports and we had no idea what the fuck we were doing. Cash/Bottle/inject - - that was about the extent of it. U seem like youare read up on it - so thats good.

    3) I dont think super DMZ is your best choice for an oral only intro. (keep exploring... ( Kid... we aren't telling you this stuff to be dicks. We know what we are talking about. There is a wealth of knowledge on this board for you to take advantage of. Listen to us! You will be thankful you did. Tallguy EDIT: Epistane or Halo would be good first time compounds with less sides)

    4) If I just had to, I would just buy some Halotesin for preworkout which can create monster workouts. Learn to squat till you puke, deadlift till you pass out, and eat like a fucking warrior. Looking back, thats one thing i regret whole heartedly. The Diet. Mine was deplorable. We'd take roids and workout hard then eat Wendy's. Waste.... Diet is 70-80% of it man.

    5) If you can hold off just a touch longer - like one more year, be worth IMO. You're natty test is on a roll right now. Don't fuck with it yet. Get some blood work done (there is a sticky around here somewhere) and see what youre test looks like. Bet its high. (Tallguy EDIT: he is right, your natty test is through the roof at your age! Use it while you have it! Hold off like he said for at least another year, 2 would be better. But you will do what your gonna do)

    6) either way you are way ahead of most kids your age. Good luck
    Kid... we aren't telling you this stuff to be dicks. We know what we are talking about. There is a wealth of knowledge on this board for you to take advantage of. Listen to us! You will be thankful you did. If your really gonna follow through with this research your PCT and post that up before you start so we can help you get that right. I will tell you it MUST include a SERM! You wanna make sure you have this stuff in hand before you start the cycle in case something happens and you need to end early.

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    Super-DMZ is a much weaker steroid since the reformulation. I would look at other options if I were you. 19 is not too young. Arnold started with DBol at 16. I started with Superdrol at 16. Yes you will sacrifice quality of life by starting early, but how bad do you want it?
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    Ok I am reading your replies and listening. I know you guys arn't trying to be dicks I posted on here because I wanted advice from people who have done this. I am not going to start the DMZ cycle for at least another month as I said I am going to order some cell mass and go natty for the next month or so and see If I am still gaining reasonably. So between now and then when I make my final decision maybe you guys can at least make sure I am going to do everything right. Here is exactly what I have and my plans. I am just going by the book I figured it would be the safest option.

    PRODUCTS NEEDED:
    Super-DMZ Rx - 1 bottle
    Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 1 bottle
    Ultra Male Rx - 1 bottle
    Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 1 bottle
    E-Control Rx - 1 bottle

    ----------------------------------

    FIRST 4 WEEKS:
    Super-DMZ Rx Rx - 2 caps daily (1 cap AM / 1 cap PM)
    Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
    Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
    Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily

    ----------------------------------

    LAST 4 WEEKS:
    Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
    Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
    Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
    E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (last 3 weeks)

    I am also going to start on Milk Thistle (1000mg) about 3-4 days before and continue it throughout the cycle and post cycle.

    So there are my current plans how about some input. By the way guys I really appreciate everything you are posting I am being open minded and reading all of these posts with the best interest of my body in mind. Just like the rest of you I want the best results as quickly as possible though.

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    Your still missing a SERM in your PCT bro. Clomid or Torem. Research what a SERM is to better educate yourself. You HAVE TO HAVE IT!! The OTC PCT lined up by IML is a starting point only, add the SERM in and your good pretty much.

    As for your "I'm gonna stay natty for at least another month", please re-think this. One month isn't long enough man, not at all. Give it till the end of the year at the very least, you won't see HUGE natty gains in a month and that will push your decision to jump on PHs real quick. Make sure your diet is in check and your training HARD! I can't stress this enough! Also get good rest. Are you taking in enough protein? Give us an idea of your daily diet and your workout routine so we can help you there also. You'd be surprised what a proper diet and good routine can do for you younger guys with your jacked natural test. You jump on Super-DMZ, or any PH/AAS for that matter, and your natural test production is shutdown bro.

    Is this the original version or the reformulated one?

    Also, drop the milk thistle. If your running the OG version the milk thistle will fuck with the Superdrol in it. Grab a bottle of Liv52 off orbitnutrition.com and run it at the recommended dose on the bottle pre loading like you would with the milk thistle. Better liver protection and won't fuck with the SD. This is of course if you go with the PH option. IMO nothing beats Liv52, especially for the price.

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    most are not done fully developing until age 21-26. wait till atleast 24 if not more. and just because your tall dont mean you are doen growing, its not all about hight.
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