Ok I know in general we're talking about most of the same stuff. I used to only do ABB products to keep me on the lower end of stimulants as far as I was concerned. Then I tried jacked and as much as I hate jumping on bandwagons I really liked it. A friend recommended NO Explode 2.0, that it was a little better. I can be pretty sensitive to stimulants so I thought I'd ask for any of you guys' thoughts. Anyone tried them both, are they really that different? And it has effervescence (sp) carbonation, whatever which is why you're not supposed to shake it...and it's recommended you drink it all within like 20 minutes due to this "abosorption" matrix, blah blah...I'm not a fan of carbonation around my workouts, and I mean shit, I can't shake my damn drink to mix it? What next, don't drink it? Snort it? I mean really that shit alone is enough to keep me on jacked but hey, jokes aside, I thought I'd see what you folks thought. Or any other pre workouts that rival jacked? I'm doing IF so anything that can curb my apetite some helps.