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This will be a log of ~8 weeks of my Leptigen: Rebirth and Sesathin use. I will be carb cycling throughout. I'm going to list my meals probably for just the first High/Low/No cycle, and then list diet only when something changes (which is rare). Training logs will be kept daily.

I'll be taking measurements every week, with pics at the start and end of the 8 weeks. Fortunately for everyone here, the pics aren't gonna get posted... only lucky TP gets those. :rolleyes:

Stats -
Male, 20 years, 6'5"
Weight as of this morning, after yesterdays no carb: 235lbs
Stomach, around navel: 40.5"
Right arm: 16.5"
Left arm: 16.25"
Right quad: 26"
Left quad: 25.8"
Neck: 16.75"
BF: 21-23% (using 3 point caliper)

Current supplement usage looks like this:
Upon waking (30-60 mins before each meal) -
2.4g ALCAR
4.8g Piracetam
1.2g NAC
650mg Phosphatidylserine
300mg Alpha-GPC
(will be adding 1st dose of Rebirth here)

I'll list how these affect me, as a reference for anything new from the LG/Sesathin:

ALCAR - Very noticable effects, highly increased concentration, begins to taper off after 2-3 hours. I've been treated for ADD in the past, and ALCAR seems to give near adderall like effects.

Piracetam - Not noticable. My attack dose was around ~7g/day for a week. I'm staying on it for several reasons: 1, its cheap. 2, apparently its effects increase somewhat the longer its used... so perhaps coming off it after a couple months will be more noticable than my initial usage. 3, i dont want to change my supplementation right before i start evaluationg the LG/sesathin.

NAC - My liver values have been queer for a while; specifically concerning elevated bilirubin. Had slight cases of jaundice in the eyes come and go over the past couple years. Jaundice has cleared somewhat since i began, but i havent had any recent blood work to confirm anything. Cheap anti-oxidant, too. :shrug:

Phosphatidylserine - Jurys out on this. I began it because i had a feeling my cortisol levels were out of whack. I was probably just being a hypochondriac... lol. One thing i will say is that it seems to have lessened mood swings. Things that would normally set me off are less likely to do so... or if they do, i dont fester on them as much/at all. I also noticed a bizarre, intoxicated feeling that lasted ~25 minutes when i took 2g of it. Eventually i'm going to knock the dosing down to only on no carb days, see if anything changes.

Alpha-GPC - This, along with lecithin and some choline bitrate in my multi is just my choline source. Never taken it on its own, but i wouldnt expect much from it in that case anyway.

Also take a multi vit/min with first meal, 6g epa/dha spread throughout the day with 4 meals. Will be dropping this to ~2g/day with 2 meals.

Post w/o i take a b-complex with my meal. And 2x daily i take ~6g creatine.

Things i take only rarely: melatonin before bed (only if im otherwise wired), E/C pre-workout (only if im otherwise tired)

I think thats about it... oh yeah, im also extremely anal. And i tend to babble on. And im fat. Yeah, im done. Enjoy.
 

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Good Luck Monolith :thumb:
 

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Ha, i knew i was forgetting something:

I'll be dosing the sesathin at 1/2 cap 3x/day. The rebirth will be 1 scoop 4x/day. At that dosing they'll both run out at the 8 week mark.
 

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Wow, can't wait to see results! Good luck bro. :D
 

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this I am looking forward to following along... BEst of luck!! :D
 

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Thanks everyone! :)

Training for 4/19: Chest/Biceps

DB bench - 60lbx10 75lbx8x4 65lbx7

Decline BB - 135lbx11x8x9 (slight assist last rep last set)

Incline smith - 90lbx14x9x9

Pec dec - 120lbx10x8 100lbx10

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Alternating seated DB curl - 20lbx10 30lbx12x10x8

Hammer curls - 25lbx10 20lbx10x10

Conc. curls - 20lbx13/11x10/8 (right/left)

Jumped in and did a set of hammer machine preacher curls with someone right at the end... like 70lbx9? :shrug:

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Eh, strength is in the gutter as usual. I'm getting used to it. :cry:

Went really fast again today (you're getting to me, P-funk :D ). Lifted with a buddy doing you go i go for chest, then with bi's the RI's were around 30s.

No noticable effects from the sesathin or rebirth during the workout. Although i did feel like i had quite a bit of energy, more so than usual, especially after doing such short RI stuff. The synephrine, maybe?
 

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Hey Monolith! Good to see your Rerbirth journal up and going... looking forward to seeing what happens for you.
 

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Why not provide a link in your old journal :finger: I almost got lost.

Oh, and good luck!
 

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Originally posted by PreMier
Why not provide a link in your old journal :finger: I almost got lost.

Oh, and good luck!

Sorry :lol:

And thanks for the support, guys! :D
 

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Today's (typical) high carb day:

  • 9:30am - morning supp stack (now including leptigen)
  • 10:15am - 2.5 cups brown rice, 5.8oz chicken, 4 T. salsa, 1/2 cap sesathin, apple
  • 12:30pm - 1 scoop leptigen
  • 1:00pm - 2.5 cups brown rice, 5.8oz chicken, 4 T. salsa, 1/2 cap sesathin, apple, 5g creatine
  • 2:15-3:15pm - Gym
  • 3:30pm - 2.5 cups brown rice, 60g whey, 3 T. salsa, 4g fish oil, apple, b-complex, 5g creatine
  • 6:00pm - 2.4g ALCAR, 300mg Alpha-GPC, 1 scoop leptigen
  • 6:30pm - 2.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, 4 T. salsa, 1 T. natty PB, apple
  • 9:15pm - 6.2oz chicken, 2 cups broccoli, 1/2 cap sesathin
  • 11:30pm - 1 scoop leptigen
  • 12:30pm - 60g whey, 5g fish oil

I should also note that im following a High/Low/No/High/Low/Low/No schedule. Also, that 2nd dose of sesathin was too soon, i had meant to take it midway through the day.

First impressions... DAMN, LEPTIGEN IS TASTY! I think tossing back a mouthful of piracetam powder every morning had me a bit jaded. I was almost tempted to mix up the whole damn cannister of Rebirth. :lol:

The powder is thin, and does seem to puff up a bit if you aren't careful.

As for its ability to signal a fed state... well, a high carb day isnt the best day to critique that. Really the only time on a high carb day i feel hungry is around 2 hours after my post w/o meal. Didnt get that today, so....

As for the Sesathin... cant say ive noticed any of the reported sides. I was warm today, and was sweating a bit... but it was also around 80 degrees all day, and i was doing a lot of yard work.

Oh, i got some gas about an hour ago. :cool:
 

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Goodluck Monolith on your new journal. SOrry haven't read it yet I will later. :)
 

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Originally posted by I'm Trying
Goodluck Monolith on your new journal. SOrry haven't read it yet I will later. :)

lmao, im getting a lot of that. Dont worry, most of it is just me rambling on about nothing important. :laugh:
 

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Shit I think I ate more than you today :grin:
 

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lmao

How long does it take you to eat each meal? Everyone tells me i eat fast, and it takes me like 20 minutes. :lol:
 

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Depends - sometimes 15 mins. sometimes 45 mins. My 2nd carb meal took 45 mins. but my 3rd one only took me 15 mins. LOL!
 

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Originally posted by Jodi
Depends - sometimes 15 mins. sometimes 45 mins. My 2nd carb meal took 45 mins. but my 3rd one only took me 15 mins. LOL!

LOL

I wish there were a low GI carb in powder form. :cry:
 

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great workout!!! :flex:

whats with the 5.8oz chicken? why not eat 6? :p
 

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Originally posted by atherjen
great workout!!! :flex:

whats with the 5.8oz chicken? why not eat 6? :p

lol, no reason, it just happened to weigh out that way. ;)
 

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Training for 4/20: Quads

Trap bar deadlifts - 135lbx10 225lbx10x10x8

Incline leg press - 450lbx10x10x10

Hammer unilateral plate loaded leg extensions - 25lbx10x8x7

Squats - barx10 95lbx10

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What a weird workout.

Got pissed at myself w/ the trap bar deads. Was hoping to get 3 sets of 10, but my legs died on the last set. Managed to get it on the leg press, though... which bumps me up a few reps from last week there. First time trying the uni leg extensions, which i stole from P-Funk. While one leg is on the eccentric and concentric portion of the lift, the other leg is holding a static contraction. They felt pretty good.

After i finished with that, i realized i still had a shitload of energy. Which is weird, normally leg day devastates me (yeah, even with those puny weights :lol: ). I actually figured id do a few sets of squats, but as i was working up the weight, i realized i had an apointment i was gonna miss, so had to haul ass out of there. Ri's were 60-90s.

This is the second w/o i've had a noticable increase in energy. I'm not quite sure why... i havent read anything, or can think of any reason, that it would be the Rebirth. The only other thing ive changed somewhat recently is i started taking a digestive enzyme complex with my meals about a week ago (but didnt notice this energy boost w/ last weeks workouts).

Maybe its just a fluke... i'll see how it goes for the rest of the week.
 

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I was gonna ask what was up with those wussy squats! :p good enough excuse I guess! hehe
otherwise great workout!! cant complain about those added boots of energy-esp on leg day! :)

OH! and they do have brown rice flour that you could use.. or just grind up some oats in a coffee grinder to powder form. ;)
 

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That is horse shit. You let yourself die at 8 reps on that last set and you know it. If you hit 10 for the first to sets I find it hard to believe that you hit ABSOLUTE failure and couldn't get 2 more on the third set. Don't be so quick to give in. Mentally tell yourself "two more...i can do it......pull it together" and at the end of that you can puncutate it with my line that I yell "I GOT IT....C'MON YOU FUCKER..." the I spit on the floor pick my head/chin up decend down, lead with my chest and drive my hammies and glutes through the floor. I bet, if you really talked yourself up, that last set you could have hit TOTAL faliure at 15 reps!!! I know it.
 

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:bow: :bow: :bow: Patrick would you be my lil guardian sitting on my shoulder when I train please!! :D VERY very true!!!!
 

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jen- I would love to train with you guys (you, Jodi, mono, Premier..and others). it woul dbe so fun. I think you guys would hate me afterwards though. I am really anal about form and making sure everything is in full ROM. Most people don't like to train with me because I have no problem calling someone out. Come to NYC and see for yourself.
 

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Originally posted by P-funk
That is horse shit. You let yourself die at 8 reps on that last set and you know it. If you hit 10 for the first to sets I find it hard to believe that you hit ABSOLUTE failure and couldn't get 2 more on the third set. Don't be so quick to give in. Mentally tell yourself "two more...i can do it......pull it together" and at the end of that you can puncutate it with my line that I yell "I GOT IT....C'MON YOU FUCKER..." the I spit on the floor pick my head/chin up decend down, lead with my chest and drive my hammies and glutes through the floor. I bet, if you really talked yourself up, that last set you could have hit TOTAL faliure at 15 reps!!! I know it.

hahaha

I'm pretty quiet in the gym, so is most everyone in there... i think if i started screaming "FUCK COME ON UGNGH" i'd get thrown out. :rofl: I need to come train with you in NY. :D

The first set was hard, the second set was harder, and the third set i started seeing red by the 6th rep. 8 was hard, dammit. :mad: :D

Anyway, i think im gonna go back to squats next week, but just to parallel... do those for 3 weeks or so, then do some ATF squats. Then ill probably cycle back to trap bar deads.
 

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Cycling is a good way to do it.


By the way, the best part about my screaming is that I work at 9and workout at because it is a free membership) at a really upscale gym where there is really no one training hard. LOL, you should see peoples faces when i am getting loud.
 

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Originally posted by atherjen
I was gonna ask what was up with those wussy squats! :p good enough excuse I guess! hehe
otherwise great workout!! cant complain about those added boots of energy-esp on leg day! :)

OH! and they do have brown rice flour that you could use.. or just grind up some oats in a coffee grinder to powder form. ;)

Hey, thats a good idea with the oats. I havent had oats in a long time, actually... ive got a sealed container sitting in my cabinet i might break into on Thurs, my next high carb day. :yes:
 
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