So a little about me. Started training when I was 14. I quit when I was about 21. I was a solid 280lbs at 8% bodyfat and 6'4 naturally. I sort of quit because I didnt feel like competing and there was no point in keeping up the 24/7 job of bodybuilding if I had no desire to compete. So I still worked out but lost a lot of weight as I picked up other sports. Ive rotated back into bodybuilding though. Been at it for about 2 years again, am 27 now, and am at like 285-290lbs at 6'4 and maybe 15% bodyfat.
Ive never taken any anabolics. I was always convinced if you put your mind and body to it and ate right, didnt drink, abstained from massive amounts of sex, and trained super hard you could be gigantic naturally. And honestly I was right. My arms were like 22 inches. Probably somewhere similar now. Big giant legs, big wide back, but I never looked like a bodybuilder. The hardness, the symmetry, the extra volume, the vascularity, the rock hard big bulging abs, big calves, etc, always eluded me. Ive always looked like a natural guy no matter how big I get. I just dont have that bodybuilder look. Im getting to the point where Im reaching a plateau again and extra size just isnt coming. My symmetry and my muscle look seems to get better over time but naturally to be over 285-290lbs I just dont seem to be able to do it. Increasing my calorie intake only increases my bodyfat. Even good healthy food like chicken and rice and veggies. I eat super clean now even bulking up. I walk an hour or so a day to keep my bodyfat down it also helps calm my nerves before bed.
So the question is this. The desire to compete in bodybuilding is there. However I know I wont win any competitions staying natural. I might place top 10 at best or something but not win. My comp weight would probably be 260ish, maybe as low as 250lbs. Thats just not gonna go anywhere at 6'4 tall. I want to have a comp weight of 280ish. And if I win and progress in the world of bodybuilding hopefully get my comp weight to 300+.
So Im considering a first cycle. Have access to whatever. Not interested in insulin or growth hormone. My GH is already very high and would rather put that money into food and what not.
My question is this. Since Im already big. Way bigger than the average user. Would my first cycle still be 4-500mg of test a week? If you think about it logically if my testosterone is already in the high range and its measured in x amount per y amount of volume wouldnt I have much higher testosterone needs? If my x amount per y amount of volume is the same as someone who weighs 180lbs wouldnt i have considerably more testosterone than they have naturally? I dont know. Posting on forums in any subject in any forum seems to just attract a lot of b.s. and hate and flaming or whatever.
But i was thinking, first cycle, 600mg of test E a week for 10 weeks. I know PCT, I know diet, I know lifting, you dont have to drill me about all that. I grew up around steroids theres little I dont know. Except of course the actual experience of using them.
Ive never taken any anabolics. I was always convinced if you put your mind and body to it and ate right, didnt drink, abstained from massive amounts of sex, and trained super hard you could be gigantic naturally. And honestly I was right. My arms were like 22 inches. Probably somewhere similar now. Big giant legs, big wide back, but I never looked like a bodybuilder. The hardness, the symmetry, the extra volume, the vascularity, the rock hard big bulging abs, big calves, etc, always eluded me. Ive always looked like a natural guy no matter how big I get. I just dont have that bodybuilder look. Im getting to the point where Im reaching a plateau again and extra size just isnt coming. My symmetry and my muscle look seems to get better over time but naturally to be over 285-290lbs I just dont seem to be able to do it. Increasing my calorie intake only increases my bodyfat. Even good healthy food like chicken and rice and veggies. I eat super clean now even bulking up. I walk an hour or so a day to keep my bodyfat down it also helps calm my nerves before bed.
So the question is this. The desire to compete in bodybuilding is there. However I know I wont win any competitions staying natural. I might place top 10 at best or something but not win. My comp weight would probably be 260ish, maybe as low as 250lbs. Thats just not gonna go anywhere at 6'4 tall. I want to have a comp weight of 280ish. And if I win and progress in the world of bodybuilding hopefully get my comp weight to 300+.
So Im considering a first cycle. Have access to whatever. Not interested in insulin or growth hormone. My GH is already very high and would rather put that money into food and what not.
My question is this. Since Im already big. Way bigger than the average user. Would my first cycle still be 4-500mg of test a week? If you think about it logically if my testosterone is already in the high range and its measured in x amount per y amount of volume wouldnt I have much higher testosterone needs? If my x amount per y amount of volume is the same as someone who weighs 180lbs wouldnt i have considerably more testosterone than they have naturally? I dont know. Posting on forums in any subject in any forum seems to just attract a lot of b.s. and hate and flaming or whatever.
But i was thinking, first cycle, 600mg of test E a week for 10 weeks. I know PCT, I know diet, I know lifting, you dont have to drill me about all that. I grew up around steroids theres little I dont know. Except of course the actual experience of using them.
