- Jan 26, 2013
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I am about to start my first cycle of Var and would appreciate some feedback from women who have been here. It would be helpful to know what type of gains/time lines I could expect....... also, change of diet, workout routines, etc. Thanks so much in advance.
I mostly agree with Sassy. With the exception that you can tey stacks with an anavar base plus another AAS once you are very familiar with anavar. For women anavar is King.
First cycle should be anavar only. Week one 10mg week two 20mg week three you can bump it again. Once you are six weeks in and really feeling it if you want more do MORE ANAVAR. I have many girls go up to fifty on their first cycle. Some stay there some drop it down.
Second cycle is usually MORE ANAVAR unless they ran 50mg the whole first cycle then we look at stacking.
Winstrol isnt even on the table for me and nothing should be taking beyond anavar if the girl doesn't tolerate at least 30mg ED and tolerate it very well.
Second cycle I like var 20-30mg ED plus oral primo ace 20mg ED.
At what point would you choose an injectible over more and more var?
Var is not injectable. 50mg ED is as high as I would want to go personally on oral var. It is not that its better to take more orals it is that a woman that can't tolerate a pretty good dose of anavar isn't going to be able to handle var + primo. Establishing a good relationship with anavar meaning a good understanding of how it works to and for you is imperative before adding anything else to the mix. Anavar is king for women just as test is king for men. It is where all women should start and many women never need or want to use anything more.
To clarify - I was not implying that var is available in injectible form.. Most people will just switch to an injectible compound if they are looking to go 'higher' than ~20-25 mg of var, primarily because of the cost of var if you have to support something like 12 weeks x 50 mg var /day. So my question was at what point would you cap the increase in var before it becomes more efficient to go to an injectible.
Actually oral turinabol is the lowest androgenic AAS...its zero...but is a different derivative the anavar...so results/sides woukd be different even with a lower andrigenic side...just sayin...
I started with 20mg each day. So far no sides except that I'm hungry all the time. Not sure if thats a game my mind is playing or what. I'm feeding the hunger, properly. Low Carb, No sugar and high protien. I try to eat every three hours or so. The cooking and finding things that taste good is the hard part. I'm experimenting with some recipies I found here, and online. Usually I hit the gym three times a week, but starting tonight, it'll be more. I've decided to change my routine from splits into full body workouts each day. I've posted some before pics on my profile.
Hummmmmm... ok a little detail. Here's an example of a typical day............
Up and have my coffee........ no sugar but cream.
Breakfast............ 4 egg scramble, with green and yellow pepper, meat, mushrooms, gouda cheese, sour cream and salsa.
Lunch.............. spinach and cheese pie............ (Serves 4) 10 eggs, ricatta and fetta cheese, mushrooms, onions, scallions, five chicken thighs, spinach.
coffee, again no sugar but with cream
Snack .......1 cup nuts (peanuts, cashews or almonds)
Dinner.............. Pork chops in mushroom gravey with fresh mushrooms and fetta cheese. Rice. Fresh green beans.
Lots of water in between meals and at the gym.
Supplements....... morning and night............ flaxseed oil, salmon oil, multi vit, zinc, glucosamine...............
Ya, that's a typical day..............
So the only complex carb you get is rice. How much is that serving? But you're also eating higher-GI vegetables (i.e. not all green leafies --> more carbs)
My point being if you run consistently on that diet where you're getting maybe 1/2 c of rice or ~30 g of carbs, and not getting in any refeeds, you're sort of maybe staying in ketosis, but I'm gonna guess not. So that means not only are you not in ketosis, allowing your body to use ketones as an alternate energy source, you're just at extremely low carb, leaving your body w/ insufficient energy to execute the type of lifting you should be doing on a steroid cycle, but not low enough to leverage a ketogenic diet approach.
Are you doing a weekly refeed or something? There needs to be an energy source somewhere in your diet.
Also do you know the total calories that this all adds up to? IF its not much, you may legitimately be hungry because you're not eating enough. Otherwise are you feeling lethargic or anything?
My training partner used var at 12.5mg per week and saw great strength gains, new vascularity every week, considered herself to be 'lean' by week 5 (takes a lot to make this lady happy with her look), and painful forearm pumps. She did have muscular forearms before var though. No sides.
I'm not feeling lethargic at all. It's only very early into my cycle, and although my diet is lean in carbs, I will do a 'refeed' every four days.........(I'm assuming a 'refeed' is to boost carbs to keep my metabolizm going).
What diet would you suggest for me?