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This Guy.....Is fucking 23 !!!!

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The fact is that the dude is a freak, but the reason he's reached that level of musculature at 23 has alot to do with his height.

You don't see hardly any IFBB pro's over 5' 9'' 5' 10'' anymore, and the ones that are out there are much older b/c it takes so long to fill out a larger frame

Pro bodybuilding has turned into a midget freak show IMO lol
 
He is one of a kind. I think if he stays healthy he will be the next guy to push things to new levels. He looks as good as Phil Heath now IMO. He has amazing genetics and does everything right. It is ashame that people want to talk shit on him for being phenomenal at what he loves doing. This guy has accomplished more than probably all the guys who are talking shit on him combined. I don't care how much gear anyone uses that doesn't mean you are going to look anything like this guy or any pro. What bothers me is guys will bash this guy yet many of them use AAS themselves and they have no business even using them at all . Most guys who are talking shit could of reached their personal goals naturally but they are lazy and think steroids are magic. If you don't want to push your physique past what is normal then why are you using AAS at all? AAS are used for this purpose. Why bash the guy who has achieved something so rare?

I think not all guys want to be bodybuilders but there are quite a few people here that use a lot of gear and look like shit.
 
It is genetics. Not that someone like you wants to get oh gosh groce bb'r big but even if you did drop your wimpy mindset and loaded up on aas, slin and gh well you still would look like a scrawny fairy compared to Alexey.

Golden Era? People used to barely even train legs or back in the 70's.

Take Arnold and Nubret all you want meanwhile I will take Kai Greene, Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman. Guys who worked out all their muscles not just their chest, arms, shoulders and then some light back and leg work. (Inb4 negs from die hard Arnold fans - yeah he was great but to call that the golden era of bodybuilding is just phaggotry to the max and something I have never understood)



Not sure how you knew I was a fan but yeah the guy is funny.



Seriously.
lol...you said kai greene
 
I think what he has accomplished is amazing.

I also find it quite humorous that this is posted on a bb forum where most guys on here are seeking advice on how to use aas to get the most bang for their buck or potential and the second some freak of nature that almost all aas users wish to achieve has a pic posted, he is bashed and ridiculed for using and hitting it hard. Is it jealousy ir hypocrisy? Yes he is taking a chance with health but he will be great while he is here. Just my opinion.
 
I think not all guys want to be bodybuilders but there are quite a few people here that use a lot of gear and look like shit.


Glad I wasn't the only one thinking the same thing.
 
I just thought the posts were harmless fun.Jealous of him DUH...I work 10 hrs day blah blah blah , with what i have left 4 energy i lift.When i scrounge up enough i cycle / reach potential... i wish ihad time to spend 4 h day lifting , nutritionists feeding me the pros and carbs and supps , i wish i had the scratch to juice like crazyman , and hgh and all thetop notch ph grade suppps..and an enterage telling training me 24/7
I didn't feel like i was bashing him and fuck ya i am jealous , but also semi satisfied w/ whats going on with my body im not at where i want but i work hard for this
good 4 him he does look great
I was not bashing him
 
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This kid is a genetic beast and s/b given all the credit in the world for what he has accomplished. He's at a point that most pros don't reach until their 30's!!
 
Seriously, I'd like to see his grocery bill
 
This guy just accepts training stimulus and hormones VERY well. He will respond better to ANY amount of gear compared to "normal" less gifted people.

If we were to take this guy as a fresh newbie, and take a guy on this forum with same height and starting weight etc...

Give them both 600mg of testosterone -- it would be asinine the difference in response we would see.

Genetics are largely how your body accepts and responds to exogenous androgens, GH, etc......

amazing EVERYTHING on this kid.

-Matt
 
Someone posted about "roided, synthol, mutant" something or another ---

Yes, these top guys use AAS
Yes these top guys dabble in some site enhancement
Yes they mutate into specimens most people aren't capable of or cannot afford.

Welcome to 2012 Bodybuilding.

-Matt
 
Genetics, PERIOD. You could pump in the worlds supply of HGH and test and tren and etc... into a normal person and not accomplish that in a lifetime. Give props to the kid, but he was born to be that way if he wanted, and obviously he wanted to. Lol.
 
The fact is that the dude is a freak, but the reason he's reached that level of musculature at 23 has alot to do with his height.

You don't see hardly any IFBB pro's over 5' 9'' 5' 10'' anymore, and the ones that are out there are much older b/c it takes so long to fill out a larger frame

Pro bodybuilding has turned into a midget freak show IMO lol

Oh look someone who doesn't follow IFBB bodybuilding at all.

Bar Dexter winning 1 Mr O care to guess the average height of the winner of the Mr O for the last 30 years?
Lee Haney: 5'11"
Dorian Yates: 5'10"
Ronnie Coleman: 5'11"
Jay Cutler: 5'9"

I think Lee Priest was the only short person who ACTUALLY competed for the Olympia.

Phil Heath is 5'10" and he didn't have any trouble in going from this to Mr O in 8 years

phil-heath-denver-university1.jpg


Not sure if you are trying to make excuses for why you can't fill out your frame or if you are just stupidly ignorant about the IFBB.

I think not all guys want to be bodybuilders but there are quite a few people here that use a lot of gear and look like shit.

Too true.

lol...you said kai greene

Why are you even on here?

The gay porn model physique you desire doesn't require aas, so why are you on a steroid board? Can't handle the hard work and time it takes for your mediocre physique?
 
Genetics, PERIOD. You could pump in the worlds supply of HGH and test and tren and etc... into a normal person and not accomplish that in a lifetime. Give props to the kid, but he was born to be that way if he wanted, and obviously he wanted to. Lol.


agreed, all the pros have genetics on their side. Some people might say "if you took enough gear/slin/hgh etc. for a long enough time anyone can look like that" but I simply don't believe it. I'm sure he uses a ton of shit, and he trains as hard as anyone, and his diet's on point etc. but so are millions of other people and they'll never reach half his potential in their whole lives.
 
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I was just about to say. If anything, taller people have the tendency to win Mr. O's, although there are quite a few shorter competitors who do well. It is easier to become larger with less height, but when somebody reaches your proportions at a higher height, they're going to dwarf you.

Johnnie Jackson 5'8"
Branch Warren 5'7"
Kai Greene 5'8"
Dexter Jackson 5'6"
Brandon Curry 5'8"
Ronny Rockel 5'6"
Hide Yamagishi 5'5"

More examples of shorter IFBB competitors who place well.
 
I was just about to say. If anything, taller people have the tendency to win Mr. O's, although there are quite a few shorter competitors who do well. It is easier to become larger with less height, but when somebody reaches your proportions at a higher height, they're going to dwarf you.

Johnnie Jackson 5'8"
Branch Warren 5'7"
Kai Greene 5'8"
Dexter Jackson 5'6"
Brandon Curry 5'8"
Ronny Rockel 5'6"
Hide Yamagishi 5'5"

More examples of shorter IFBB competitors who place well.

You had me until the last 2 guys. Sorry they don't do well at the O and those are just as of recent.

How about

Flex Wheeler: 5'9"
Kevin Levrone: 5'11"
Markus Ruhl: 5'10"
Dennis Wolfe: 5'11"
Victor Martinez: 5'9"

Dexter and Branch might as well not even be mentioned because if Victor Martinez gets out of jail in time those two will be lucky for be fighting for 5th at the 2012 Mr O

1-4 Phil Heath, Kai Greene, Dennis Wolfe, Victor Martinez

I mean the average height of an american male is 5'9.5" ... so how does 5'8" make someone short all of the sudden? Is this real life?
 
Placing in the Olympia at all is a huge achievement. I don't get how people downplay teh accomplishments of the guys who aren't in top 5. They still do better than 99.9% of the bodybuilders on teh planet yet they're not good?
 
The kid is just a drug abuser, nothing more.

At 23, Arnold won the Olympia.

At 24 Lee Haney won the Olympia.


This kid is a nobody.
 
"myostatin genetic mutation" they say Flex wheeler had this???
 
True but bodybuilding is a lot more competitive now.
Not true, in the 80's it was a massive sport with many great bodybuilders, probably more then today.

The decade excuse does not hold up, Lee and Arnold were the best at 23 and 24 competing against the best in their day, and that's all that matters.
 
Give the guy props, he learned at a very early age what he's good at. The kid has it going on.
 
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He reminds me of Gregg Valentino when he was a natural:
 
Oh look someone who doesn't follow IFBB bodybuilding at all.

Bar Dexter winning 1 Mr O care to guess the average height of the winner of the Mr O for the last 30 years?
Lee Haney: 5'11"
Dorian Yates: 5'10"
Ronnie Coleman: 5'11"
Jay Cutler: 5'9"

I think Lee Priest was the only short person who ACTUALLY competed for the Olympia.

Phil Heath is 5'10" and he didn't have any trouble in going from this to Mr O in 8 years

phil-heath-denver-university1.jpg


Not sure if you are trying to make excuses for why you can't fill out your frame or if you are just stupidly ignorant about the IFBB.



Too true.



Why are you even on here?

The gay porn model physique you desire doesn't require aas, so why are you on a steroid board? Can't handle the hard work and time it takes for your mediocre physique?

you have no idea what you are talking about...lee priest the only olympia competing short guy? what a dumbass
 
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