Im not running anything like letro because ive never had problems with gyno. This is my 3rd cycle using gear. Im up 22lbs now and this is the best cycle ive ever run. Ive had no sides and tons of gain so far. To be honest though the gains are more in size then in strength. I have tendonitis and arthritis in both shoulders and a torn ac joint in my left shoulder so i got to be really careful when lifting heavy, especially benching. I cant bench with a barbell at all, only dumbells because of pain.