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Will NPP lower my Total Test Levels?
- Thread starter sneedham
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It's a steroid bro, it will increase your test levels.
I've run 100mg test cyp with 50mg NPP pinned Mon-Wed-Fri as a 'cruise' for 6 weeks .... more like a mini-cycle but I liked it.
I've run 100mg test cyp with 50mg NPP pinned Mon-Wed-Fri as a 'cruise' for 6 weeks .... more like a mini-cycle but I liked it.
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It will not raise total test on labs since its not the same molecule as testosterone. If your test levels do go up that means your npp isnt real. Some shady sponsors mix test prop with deca. I know where yours came from so it will be interesting to see.
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OldSchoolLifter
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In for results and where it came from
Good point!!! The only thing I can say so far is no PIP yet 8 hrs post inj....
So here's a n00b question ... Does only test raise total test?
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Yup. Thats my understanding.
Just a little PIP but I think it is normal I have never injected with EO..... Capt'n I'm gonna have to agree with Moe in that NPP should not raise Total T levels.. I gonna do some research and post again and if Im wrong I will post as well... Also AY gear rocks...... Also body temp feels warmer....
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Real NPP cannot raise T levels at all.
OldSchoolLifter
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Urine nandrolone metabolites: false positive doping test? -- Kohler and Lambert 36 (5): 325 -- British Journal of Sports Medicine
Therapeutic effects of nandrolone an... [HIV Clin Trials. 2010 Jul-Aug] - PubMed - NCBI
Everything I am reading shows Nandrolone while it does not poses a 19 carbon atom it does indirectly increase testosterone.
Therapeutic effects of nandrolone an... [HIV Clin Trials. 2010 Jul-Aug] - PubMed - NCBI
Everything I am reading shows Nandrolone while it does not poses a 19 carbon atom it does indirectly increase testosterone.
Nope, Nandrolone does not raise T levels.
OldSchoolLifter
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http://www.medibolics.com/EffectsOfNandroloneStudybyGold.html
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If i'm reading this right, subjects who used nandrolone over testosterone, had an increase in both free test and serum levels.
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If i'm reading this right, subjects who used nandrolone over testosterone, had an increase in both free test and serum levels.
I did read the study from start to finish.. And in reviewing the statistical summaries it does appear that TT is higher in the nandrolone category.. Interesting....
Nope, strike 3.
Post another study that has nothing to do with Nandrolone raising T levels. =)
OldSchoolLifter
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Lol Heavy, sounds like your getting annoyed, I truly do believe it can raise T levels indirectly.
Show me a study that says otherwise?
That chart clearly shows Serum and Free test were elevated by the nandrolone only users. What am I missing, Im always open to learn brother?
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Time course of plasma testosterone concentrations in 23 healthy men over 32 days after i.m. injection of 100 mg of nandrolone phenylpropionate in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle into the gluteal muscle (group 1) (♦) or injection of 100 mg of nandrolone decanoate into the gluteal muscle in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 2) (○), into the gluteal muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 3) or into the deltoid muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 4) (▪). Results expressed as mean and S.E.M., unless the S.E. is smaller than the symbol.
OldSchoolLifter
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Nandrolone is in the second Column....
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Me, too!
OldSchoolLifter
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That's like asking if Deca raises test levels...
Deca is exactly like npp both Nandrolone with different esters
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Your chart does not show any increase in T after administering Nandrolone. Looks like you may be looking at the wrong data.
Nandrolone is in the second Column....
Nandrolone shuts down T production and T levels decrease upon injection.
I am fracking confused now...But I am going to go with Heavy on this one..I don't understand exactly why, unles that table is before injection of either compound??????
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Time course of plasma testosterone concentrations in 23 healthy men over 32 days after i.m. injection of 100 mg of nandrolone phenylpropionate in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle into the gluteal muscle (group 1) (♦) or injection of 100 mg of nandrolone decanoate into the gluteal muscle in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 2) (○), into the gluteal muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 3) or into the deltoid muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 4) (▪). Results expressed as mean and S.E.M., unless the S.E. is smaller than the symbol.
Just read the study I provided. It will answer your question conclusively.
This chart and statement clearly shows testosterone dropping after injecting both NPP and deca. This is why the dreaded deca dick happens. After the NPP injection it took 13 days for testosterone levels to return to base line, and greater then 20 days after the deca injection, which makes sense due to the shorter ester.
Plasma testosterone concentrations were most rapidly and completely suppressed within the first week after injections of the phenylpropionate ester, but this suppression was sustained for the shortest time. The duration of suppression was significantly longest after the gluteal 1-ml injection. Plasma testosterone concentrations returned to base line by day 13 after the phenylpropionate ester but required >20 days to return to base-line levels after the decanoate ester.