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Are we ever really sure?
I'm a second year college student (just moved in today) and i'm working towards a Bachelor's Degree, then i will work for my MBA and CPA (Certified Public Accountant) if i choose to have a career in accounting.
Last year, i took basic classes such as calculus, Liberal Arts, Lab sciences, as well as my "core" classes which my major is business. I did pretty well getting 4.0 gpa throughout the year and recieving a couple scholarship awards and benefits.
What advice would you guys give me for the next 3-4 years here? Should i get a part-time job just for work experience and/or should i get involved in certain clubs or groups? I want to make it big and i'm talking about working my way up to 100k+ a year. I'm motivated and i will keep working hard until i get what i want.
All those who have been through it or learned from your mistakes in the past, please feel free to give some advice of what to do and not to do and so forth. Even the slightest details would be helpful. That includes when to start saving (i started a few years ago but is it necessary) and what investments i should look for, etc.
Greatly appreciated
Last year, i took basic classes such as calculus, Liberal Arts, Lab sciences, as well as my "core" classes which my major is business. I did pretty well getting 4.0 gpa throughout the year and recieving a couple scholarship awards and benefits.
What advice would you guys give me for the next 3-4 years here? Should i get a part-time job just for work experience and/or should i get involved in certain clubs or groups? I want to make it big and i'm talking about working my way up to 100k+ a year. I'm motivated and i will keep working hard until i get what i want.
All those who have been through it or learned from your mistakes in the past, please feel free to give some advice of what to do and not to do and so forth. Even the slightest details would be helpful. That includes when to start saving (i started a few years ago but is it necessary) and what investments i should look for, etc.
Greatly appreciated
Become an avid reader and read a wide variety of books.
Learn for the sake of learning both in and out of school.
Marry a wealthy girl who has a rich family.
Good stuff, keep up the good grades. How are you at public speaking? That is one thing you will need to take with you in the future. You want to be able to speak loudly, clearly and with intelligence. If you want to really make good money. 150K +++ then look into opening up your own business. You will not get rich working for somebody else. It is very hard and risky but also very rewarding.
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Are you just reffering to Shiznit's scenario?
If you enjoy accounting go for it! if you dont stay the fuck away! once you are an accountant your stuck doing it because no one else wants to. If you like numbers over people, I suggest finance. If business was a game, the finance and marketers would be the players and the accountants are the score keepers. you wanna play or take score?
If you want to be a big dog, you will need most prabably need an MBA, it will qualify you over someone who doesnt have one. but you have to figure out whether you will want to complete it right away after your undergrad or get a job and do it while working full time. I decided to do it full time right away because a) I had to because I went to a US school and it was required as I was a canadian citizen. b) I would hate to work full time and then spend all of my free time doing school work. c) in an MBA program you get out what you put in. it is easy to do half ass work and squeeze by and buy your degree. It is a whole different program if you find out what are the best and most challenging courses and go for the A. thats what I did and it was a challenge. I ended up with a 3.8 GPA with a major in Finance and was honored with a member ship to the Beta gamma sigma society www.betagammasigma.org , my finance professor was Dr Sudip Datta, he is in the top 5 finance teachers in the US. lastly, make sure that your school is accredited by AACSB International. http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/
On the other hand, an MBA will hinder your chances at landing certain jr level jobs. any middle manager with half a brain will figure out that if he hires some smart kid who is more educated then him, the kid may end up being his boss in a few years and decrease his chances at moving up the ladder. he will choose anouther less qualified candidate over you who he can dominate.
As for work experience, once you figure out what field you will be in get as much as you can and bounce around, you have three summers to intern take advantage of it and try to land a part time job there for the rest of the school year. as for clubs use them for networking and meeting chicks, thats it, dont waste your time with them! IMO!
I agree 100% good communication skills is the most common attribute of all people who make $200,000+ a year!
No I'm saying in general. I mean it is possible but most people get stuck being manager's or middle management and never really make those big bucks that the owners do.
True Story, and just look where MyK is today! Living under a bridge! And, has a big nose!
I am 100% serious. A persons beliefs system also plays a major role in ho wmuch money they will make!
Try and get an internship in the summer(s), that is invaluable experience when you graduate and can already say you have experience.
Definitely go for the MBA, a bachelor's anymore just is not enough. MBA's are great because you are not locked into any one field.
As far as working through the school year, if you need the extra cash then definitely, if not I don't think it is a big deal UNLESS you can do something that will benefit your future career. Getting a job at Burger King while you're in college will not do much for you once you hit the streets after graduation IMO.
most people either don't want to do anymore, and/or are not capable or qualified to.
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I think he is being serious. Deals are made when people communicate good ideas in a confident and intelligent way. Consumers are gained, profits are made, and companies are built on the backs of people who can communicate ideas and strategies. That doesn't only include spoken communication either. Communication encompasses all forms, such as written, spoken, symbolic, read, and sometimes absorbed.
I have an ass load of work to do on my spoken communication skills, but I have been told be teachers and professors that I am an extremely strong writer. I'm timid, but I think that will go away once I learn to establish confidence.
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If you're clever (and you seem to be) and can shine in an interview, then you too can pull in the $130K+ starting software developer salary ... (colleage and friend's kids hired recently).
Life, however, is said to be hard - you have no time to actually spend that money. Turnover is high. However, starting salaries continue to be unusually competitive, even a decade after the job demand statistics first appeared.
If you are that close to graduating, you should begin to look over the market for opportunities.
Life, however, is said to be hard - you have no time to actually spend that money. Turnover is high. However, starting salaries continue to be unusually competitive, even a decade after the job demand statistics first appeared.
If you are that close to graduating, you should begin to look over the market for opportunities.
I bet trouble makes 10 million a year. 
I would like to know what company and in what state?
"Junior developers" typically start out at about $40k-$50k if they're good.
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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio:
it was a bit of a joke, however most females are very sensitive, emotional and tempermental, so you have to watch your step...and when it is that time of the month stay clear!
You had better explain this comment. You have quite a few female mods on staff. You are clearly saying, its not a joke.
Is this your opinion of women, Rob?
it was a bit of a joke, however most females are very sensitive, emotional and tempermental, so you have to watch your step...and when it is that time of the month stay clear!
You had better explain this comment. You have quite a few female mods on staff. You are clearly saying, its not a joke.
Is this your opinion of women, Rob?
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They work in mr gates empire in Seattle.
I found numbers indicating starting salaries for grads of top institutions were exceeding 70 grand. The salary number I quoted was exceptional (these individuals were hired over experienced software analysts).
I found numbers indicating starting salaries for grads of top institutions were exceeding 70 grand. The salary number I quoted was exceptional (these individuals were hired over experienced software analysts).
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Lawl, smartass!
Whatever you decide, make sure it is what you like to do and want to do. IMO, choosing to get into a certain career based on how much money you will make is the wrong reason for anyone to make such a choice.
So ask yourself what you really want to do and would enjoy doing. And would be willing to put in the extra effort and time with good enthusiasm and not bitch about the job. As easy as that question sounds, it is one of the most difficult for people to answer. Extremly few people know their true calling. Majority of us stumble into a job and muddle our way through life, bitching almost everyday about how they hate their job but they have to do it to pay the rent ....blah blah..
If you truly enjoy your job you will be a sucessfull person. But if you dont, you will be miserable no matter how much it pays and very likely say that 'this job is so not worth the money...' as it wont offer you any satisfaction and happiness. In surveys results on job satisfaction that i have seen, salary is never at the top on the list of what makes a person happy about their job. It might be very important if you are in a min wage job. But otherwise it is not even in the top 3!
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I don't think he means beliefs system to be religion. I think he is talking about personal ethics, morals, and lifestyle.
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Belief system does not equate to religion.
I am not religious, but I have a strong belief system. I believe that I need to make good money to be happy, and I will take the necessary steps to achieve that. I believe that getting married before you have established your career is foolish, so I will not do that.
I believe that having kids before you are financially stable is foolish, so I will not do that.
Do you see what I am getting at here?
I agree. I switched majors from network engineering, which is far more lucrative than what I'm studying now; I just couldn't see myself working a straight deskjob. That's not me. I do enjoy working with computers, and I still do it occasionally on the side, but not on that kind of scale (Just PC repair, installation, troubleshooting, etc.).
Now, because my family needs help, I'm stuck working full time while I goto school, so I can only go to school on a part time basis. That means I probably won't have even an associates degree real soon. I could've finished up the degree in network engineering much quicker and had a better paying job. Do I regret it? Not really. I like my current occupation, and I'm still learning. There are a lot of places for me to go from here. Plus, I'll never sit at a desk 8-12 hours a day.
Oh, and to add to that, I can't tell you how many people I encountered when I was slinging bags at the airport with master's degrees and/or who came from high paying jobs. People making 60, 80, 100K+ quitting and working manual labor for $10 an hour because they couldn't fucking take the deskjob scene anymore. Just make sure you don't become one of those people later in life.
