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what does open chat mean to you? is it useless?

One of the mods in particular provoked foreman is a few threads, and acted childish the same way foreman did. Nothing against the mods at IM, becuase they are very helpful but one of the mods in particular should be watched a little more closely.

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Wow, every single person in this thread is getting bant
 
He got married and never came back.

That and he bought a big ass Mitsubishi DLP big screen. With sex and the discovery channel he had no more need of us for his entertainment. I miss Max ... :(

Now wait a minute. min0 said he got married. BC said he's having sex. So which one is it?
 
The unwritten rules here are rather obvious and well err ... unwritten. You post more helpful and site related stuff than bullshit ... you get play. You keep a journal and post pics showing you belong here and aren't a troll ... you get play. Hang around a while and put your knowledge were your useless comments normally go ... you get play. Hang out while doing nothing more than just talking shit all the time and you will get the boot when you think you too should get play. It's a system same as any other. Don't hate the players OR the game ... play it. Fucking contribute more than you bullshit. P Funk won't even get PM'd on this cuz he earned his play. Don't like that? Fuck you. Don't get mad at me because you are a moron.

Foreman wrote checks his ass couldn't cash. His ass bounced ...

Actually, not really.

a) I have gotten told to stop being an asshole to people like Godhand from MoutainBikerChick (the other OC mod.) just like you guys do.

b) i've said it before....I don't give two shits what you do in open chat. as long as it isn't done in the other forums and as long as it doesn't hurt someones feelings if gothand is upset then I wont say shit like that to him).
 
a) I have gotten told to stop being an asshole to people like Godhand from MoutainBikerChick (the other OC mod.)

She's still around? I haven't seen her post in ages. Thought maybe IAB had her tied up as a sex slave.
 
*edit*

just saw that godhand had reported my post as being "very rude".

:rolleyes:

he never says anything "very rude".....lol.
 
godhand reported a post as rude? :funny:
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yea....I wonder if that means every time that he does something rude I can report it by giving him an infraction?

hmmmm.....If he wants to play the game......
 
Censhorship on any level sucks.

Forums must have an open chat. Just like businesses need break rooms and paid vacation.


Authoritative figures should hold themselves to higher standards or they will lose the respect of the community. As some already have.




lol @ giving someone with 41,000 posts the perma ban. The guy insulted me at least once a day, only people who spend too much time on the internet would give a shit. Even though I disagreed with him alot he made the discussions interesting...all the mods would come on and use all kinds of great studies as reference points and I was able to learn something useful. So, in essence, ForemanRules contributed greatly to this site, if not mostly indirectly. And he will be missed. Hell, if not for bumping at least 70 good threads a day.
 
Censhorship on any level sucks.

Forums must have an open chat. Just like businesses need break rooms and paid vacation.


Authoritative figures should hold themselves to higher standards or they will lose the respect of the community. As some already have.




lol @ giving someone with 41,000 posts the perma ban. The guy insulted me at least once a day, only people who spend too much time on the internet would give a shit. Even though I disagreed with him alot he made the discussions interesting...all the mods would come on and use all kinds of great studies as reference points and I was able to learn something useful. So, in essence, ForemanRules contributed greatly to this site, if not mostly indirectly. And he will be missed. Hell, if not for bumping at least 70 good threads a day.



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Ok, so if I wanted to get an infraction I would say: You are all a bunch of whiney bitches. Forman fucked up and he is not coming back. Deal with it. He fired at a fucking army and you expect them not to fire back? Fuck that. I am glad the mods fired back and showed backbone and dignity. Maturity and professionalism :blah: :blah: :blah: since when the fuck do people demonstrate that here or on the internet? Sure and the fuck not me and certainly not you. He???s gone. I???ve been here a long time and I???ve seen more liked members get the boot. I???m not saying I didn???t like the guy or some of his posts. But you play with fire; you get burned. You fuck with the bull; you get the horns. You sleep with a hooker; you get crabs. However you want to say it. It sucks but a lot of you need to stop crying over your cyber best friend. And more of you need to stop instigating. If I was a mod, I???d be going through left and right banning your asses. Some say the mods didn???t act right but neither did foreman it???s a two way street. And they have the power so boo-fucking-hoo. You all have to realize you shouldn???t shit where you eat. All the mods you are attacking are the people who gave you advise when you needed it and for some of you, you wouldn???t be where you are without them.

But I would never say that to any of you because I don???t want an infraction and you are my friends. It was totally hypothetical. :)
 
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Ok, so if I wanted to get an infraction I would say: You are all a bunch of whiney bitches. Forman fucked up and he is not coming back. Deal with it. He fired at a fucking army and you expect them not to fire back? Fuck that. I am glad the mods fired back and showed backbone and dignity. Maturity and professionalism :blah: :blah: :blah: since when the fuck do people demonstrate that here or on the internet? Sure and the fuck not me and certainly not you. He???s gone. I???ve been here a long time and I???ve seen more liked members get the boot. I???m not saying I didn???t like the guy or some of his posts. But you play with fire; you get burned. You fuck with the bull; you get the horns. You sleep with a hooker; you get crabs. However you want to say it. It sucks but a lot of you need to stop crying over your cyber best friend. And more of you need to stop instigating. If I was a mod, I???d be going through left and right banning your asses. Some say the mods didn???t act right but neither did foreman it???s a two way street. And they have the power so boo-fucking-hoo. You all have to realize you shouldn???t shit where you eat. All the mods you are attacking are the people who gave you advise when you needed it and for some of you, you wouldn???t be where you are without them.

But I would never say that to any of you because I don???t want an infraction and you are my friends. It was totally hypothetical. :)


What a sellout. :rolleyes:
 
Ok, so if I wanted to get an infraction I would say: You are all a bunch of whiney bitches. Forman fucked up and he is not coming back. Deal with it. He fired at a fucking army and you expect them not to fire back? Fuck that. I am glad the mods fired back and showed backbone and dignity. Maturity and professionalism :blah: :blah: :blah: since when the fuck do people demonstrate that here or on the internet? Sure and the fuck not me and certainly not you. He???s gone. I???ve been here a long time and I???ve seen more liked members get the boot. I???m not saying I didn???t like the guy or some of his posts. But you play with fire; you get burned. You fuck with the bull; you get the horns. You sleep with a hooker; you get crabs. However you want to say it. It sucks but a lot of you need to stop crying over your cyber best friend. And more of you need to stop instigating. If I was a mod, I???d be going through left and right banning your asses. Some say the mods didn???t act right but neither did foreman it???s a two way street. And they have the power so boo-fucking-hoo. You all have to realize you shouldn???t shit where you eat. All the mods you are attacking are the people who gave you advise when you needed it and for some of you, you wouldn???t be where you are without them.

But I would never say that to any of you because I don???t want an infraction and you are my friends. It was totally hypothetical. :)



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Ok, so if I wanted to get an infraction I would say: You are all a bunch of whiney bitches. Forman fucked up and he is not coming back. Deal with it. He fired at a fucking army and you expect them not to fire back? Fuck that. I am glad the mods fired back and showed backbone and dignity. Maturity and professionalism :blah: :blah: :blah: since when the fuck do people demonstrate that here or on the internet? Sure and the fuck not me and certainly not you. He???s gone. I???ve been here a long time and I???ve seen more liked members get the boot. I???m not saying I didn???t like the guy or some of his posts. But you play with fire; you get burned. You fuck with the bull; you get the horns. You sleep with a hooker; you get crabs. However you want to say it. It sucks but a lot of you need to stop crying over your cyber best friend. And more of you need to stop instigating. If I was a mod, I???d be going through left and right banning your asses. Some say the mods didn???t act right but neither did foreman it???s a two way street. And they have the power so boo-fucking-hoo. You all have to realize you shouldn???t shit where you eat. All the mods you are attacking are the people who gave you advise when you needed it and for some of you, you wouldn???t be where you are without them.

But I would never say that to any of you because I don???t want an infraction and you are my friends. It was totally hypothetical. :)
"Hypothetically", You make a great example why so many people want gun control laws passed in this country.
 
This is my whole focus on the matter.

I sat and watched a situation escalate at the hands of Moderators which otherwise would have been nothing at all had it simply been left alone.

Foreman was being his usual self and Moderators were behaving precisely as could have been predicted. They swarmed around him. Goaded him with disparaging comments. Essentially, Foreman was baited into the whole thing.

If the Mods would have simply STOPPED POSTING thier personal and vindictive comments then Foreman would have simply gone on to other things. But no, Pride prevailed. Instead... the Mods engaged in a "tit-for-tat" exchange and then decided to Ban him for it.

This sort of reprehensible behavior could happen to any other member for no other reason than the Mods simply decide they don't like you anymore.

That's exactly how it went down last night. I'm sure foreman won't be the last.

It's appalling to me to see how hyprcritical the standard have become here. I've seen Moderators tell someone POINT BLANK, "you are a f*cking loser" or "you are a f*cking idiot" and all is well. But let some poor member get caught exhibiting that same level of dialoge and WHAM! Infraction/Ban.

Both side were wrong last night. Both parties stepped over the limit. The difference is, Modeators are simply not held accountable to the same standards as the rest of the membership. :(

Damn Wit..........Of all people, I would not expected you to post this. You are waay off here, and I hope you realize that. The mods did not gang up and force Foreman into a corner to ban him. He was given a million chances. He flamed people continuously, had no respect for anyone and posted non-sense. I never had a problem with Foreman, but I didn't like his attitude. This place has become a place where everyone talks shit and this is not what IM is about, or at least not the IM I joined for. He had many warnings that were reversed, many more warnings before the first infraction. He could have stopped his behavior many many times but chose not too. I like others are probably guilty of doing the same thing. That is why he was given MANY chances. We are only human. The mods are not perfect. But like has been said, the quality members that have been here, have left because of all the bullshit that goes on here. If people don't like being respectful to other members, they need to go elsewhere. I never give infractions in OC..........maybe that was a problem. Maybe we are too lenient. We don't want to ban people, but we (the mods and Rob) want this to be the best quality board on the net for BB info.
 
Ok, so if I wanted to get an infraction I would say: You are all a bunch of whiney bitches. Forman fucked up and he is not coming back. Deal with it. He fired at a fucking army and you expect them not to fire back? Fuck that. I am glad the mods fired back and showed backbone and dignity. Maturity and professionalism :blah: :blah: :blah: since when the fuck do people demonstrate that here or on the internet? Sure and the fuck not me and certainly not you. He???s gone. I???ve been here a long time and I???ve seen more liked members get the boot. I???m not saying I didn???t like the guy or some of his posts. But you play with fire; you get burned. You fuck with the bull; you get the horns. You sleep with a hooker; you get crabs. However you want to say it. It sucks but a lot of you need to stop crying over your cyber best friend. And more of you need to stop instigating. If I was a mod, I???d be going through left and right banning your asses. Some say the mods didn???t act right but neither did foreman it???s a two way street. And they have the power so boo-fucking-hoo. You all have to realize you shouldn???t shit where you eat. All the mods you are attacking are the people who gave you advise when you needed it and for some of you, you wouldn???t be where you are without them.

But I would never say that to any of you because I don???t want an infraction and you are my friends. It was totally hypothetical. :)

Great post Crash!!:thumb:
 
Damn Wit..........Of all people, I would not expected you to post this. You are waay off here, and I hope you realize that...
I see your point.. In fact, I've seen it all along. I'm not objecting to the fact that Foreman got banned. He earned that distinguished title on many an occasion prior to this incident.

My whole objection was the way this was handled. Mods engaging in a even exchange of underhanded insults and ego bursting comments. Formean wouldn't back down. They wouldn't either. Both sides were behaving as equally vindictive toward one another. Both sides goading (almost daring) the other to "take it to the next level"

Foreman wanted to become a martyr and the Mods made him one. If they had simply ignored him none of this bullshit would have happened and all of this fallout could have been avoided.

Now, I do now realize that there4 are underlying details that I was completely unaware of that would have constituted foreman's "banning". I still insist that the matter should have been handled in a maner OTHER than engaging in an all-out post-war, locking threads, deleting posts, and then banning an offender. This sets an unacceptable precident that (as we can all see) leaves a great number of members with questionable thoughts and opinions about the leadership of this board.

I guess what pains me the most is the fact that I love this board and its' lesdership. You guys have done a magnificant job in maintaining what is still the best bodybuilding/fitness site on the net. It just upset me greatly to see this situation evolve and explode into what it has become. It could have been avoided.

I'm not taking sides in any arguement here. I hope someone can see my point in this manner.

Time heals all wounds. Time will heal us.

I apologize for having been so harsh on the Mods, especially Jodi.
 
Foreman wanted to become a martyr and the Mods made him one. If they had simply ignored him none of this bullshit would have happened and all of this fallout could have been avoided.

Ignoring him did not work. Like I said, he was warned many times and then we reverserd those where he had no warnings or infractions. He continued on his flames and insulting behavior to almost everyone. Then he got 4 more warnings before his fist infraction (which I gave him). Then sometime over the weekend (I missed it) it came crashing down. So my question is, did we not give him more than enough chances? And you said you like this board and that is the way we want it. But it is hard to do with people like that. All he had to do is ease up on some of his flaming and insults and he chose not to do it. So basically, they were left with no choice. Sometimes you have to do things that you don't want to do or something that could have been avoided. I'm sure you have been in that situation before!
 
I see your point.. In fact, I've seen it all along. I'm not objecting to the fact that Foreman got banned. He earned that distinguished title on many an occasion prior to this incident.

My whole objection was the way this was handled. Mods engaging in a even exchange of underhanded insults and ego bursting comments. Formean wouldn't back down. They wouldn't either. Both sides were behaving as equally vindictive toward one another. Both sides goading (almost daring) the other to "take it to the next level"

Foreman wanted to become a martyr and the Mods made him one. If they had simply ignored him none of this bullshit would have happened and all of this fallout could have been avoided.

Now, I do now realize that there4 are underlying details that I was completely unaware of that would have constituted foreman's "banning". I still insist that the matter should have been handled in a maner OTHER than engaging in an all-out post-war, locking threads, deleting posts, and then banning an offender. This sets an unacceptable precident that (as we can all see) leaves a great number of members with questionable thoughts and opinions about the leadership of this board.

I guess what pains me the most is the fact that I love this board and its' lesdership. You guys have done a magnificant job in maintaining what is still the best bodybuilding/fitness site on the net. It just upset me greatly to see this situation evolve and explode into what it has become. It could have been avoided.

I'm not taking sides in any arguement here. I hope someone can see my point in this manner.

Time heals all wounds. Time will heal us.

I apologize for having been so harsh on the Mods, especially Jodi.


I hear ya... just like what Crashman said, it's a two way street. Takes two to tango.. both of them are equally responsible for the argument. However, this board is purely a privaledge. We don't have a right to post here, but with the permission of the owner we do. As the owner can't moderate each thread, that power gets passed down to topic mods (of course). To mess with them is absurd. It's like toying with your parents. Regardless of how childish the argument can come down to, the parents can kick you out of the house, and that'll be it. Fortuntely, this forum is not some abusive family, but I think I know what I mean.

Personally, I would agree with the ban, but for the acts way before that thread. He was a jokester, and that was great, but he took it to extremes. He would constantly post his shit in the training forum, diet and nutrition, and anabolics. Shit that needs to be in Open Chat.
BigDyl, GoCocks, Myk... all jokesters, and I love it, but they are very different than Foreman. Try to find an insultive post in the training section by any of them. They keep their humor in OC, unlike what Foreman did. I can remember countless threads where Foreman would anger a new poster here. A new member often starts off with a newb question, such as posting his/her training program. Foreman just went way out of line in way too many of these. Not something you want around here, unfortunetly.
 
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