Would you choose to save the life of your pet(that you've had for years)or a stranger

[ABCs]

Can't say the same about your mom...

You are one very cultured individual.

 

[BigDyl]

I was trying to make a point to give an example about how I feel about my pet's life. Many of you don't view pets over humans so to give an understanding about how I feel about my pets, I used a human figure that shows love and compassion. This was just to get my point across and nothing more.

Ask anyone who thinks humans are 'superior' (even though they fuck everything over) and you will find 99.9 of them are religious.

 

[mike456]

Good lord is reading comprehension not important in todays society. Jodi already stated she would choose the stranger human over a random animal. Why because of the possible emotional connection. We are from the same species there would be some sort of connection there.

IF THAT IS THE CASE, SHE BELIEVES THEY ARE NOT EQUAl!

 

[Jodi]

I would also save a stranger over a stranger ant! but you said all creatures are equal! I never said that!

Yes, I do believe all creatures are equal, but I will always show more compassion and care for the creatures that I could or do have an emotional bond to.

 

[BigDyl]

You are one very cultured individual.

Indeed. I've sampled many cultures as well.

 

[ABCs]

Ask anyone who thinks humans are 'superior' (even though they fuck everything over) and you will find 99.9 of them are religious.

Oh lord! Oh no.... not religion and humanity. Let's all run around saving animals and letting humans die. A police officer doesn't have an emotional attachment to the people they save day in and day out. Let's alocate those officers and EMT people to the animal rights squad. Save the animals!

 

[mike456]

Yes, I do believe all creatures are equal, but I will always show more compassion and care for the creatures that I could or do have an emotional bond to.

THAN THEY ARE NOT EQUAL! READ YOUR POST OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU REALIZE THE lOGIC THERE MAKES NO SENSE!

 

[KelJu]

that's why I said "Just to put it out there", sorry for the confusion

Then we have reached an understanding.

I just sensed some anger growing between people.

 

[tucker01]

IF THAT IS THE CASE, SHE BELIEVES THEY ARE NOT EQUAl!

Obviously we are looking from two different view points here. You are looking at it from a human perspective, where as I am looking at it from a animal (yes that is what we are) perspective.

Because we have a greater potential for emotional connection with another human doesn't make the animal and less of a figure.

 

[KelJu]

THAN THEY ARE NOT EQUAL! READ YOUR POST OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU REALIZE THE lOGIC THERE MAKES NO SENSE!

Do you believe blacks and whites are equal?

Would you save a white friend over a black stranger?

Do you see how they are of equal inherent value, yet a person would pick one to save because of personal emotional connection. You are the one with the bad logic. Re-thing your position.

 

[mike456]

Then we have reached an understanding.

I just sensed some anger growing between people.

I am not angry at anyone in this thread

 

[ABCs]

Do you see how they are of equal inherent value, yet a person would pick one to save because of personal emotional connection. You are the one with the bad logic. Re-thing your position.

We have bad logic because we believe a humans life is more sacred then that of a mut? Alrighty.

 

[BigDyl]

I am not angry at anyone in this thread

Screw you.

 

[maniclion]

Dero must go jogging on railroad tracks with his iPod on full blast or something.....

 

[KelJu]

Oh lord! Oh no.... not religion and humanity. Let's all run around saving animals and letting humans die. A police officer doesn't have an emotional attachment to the people they save day in and day out. Let's alocate those officers and EMT people to the animal rights squad. Save the animals!

I have more respect for animals than I do most people. At least an animal can survive on its own. Look at all of the worthless humans that can't.

 

[mike456]

Do you believe blacks and whites are equal?

Would you save a white friend over a black stranger?

Do you see how they are of equal inherent value, yet a person would pick cone to save because of personal emotional onnection. You are the one with the bad logic. Re-thing your position.

Black Strangers Are equal to White Strangers to me. Black strangers are not equal to White Freinds to me, and vice versa.

 

[BigDyl]

Dero must go jogging on railroad tracks with his iPod on full blast or something.....

touche'

 

[BigDyl]

Black Strangers Are equal to White Strangers to me. Black strangers are not equal to White Freinds to me, and vice versa.

Racist!

 

[Jodi]

THAN THEY ARE NOT EQUAL! READ YOUR POST OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU REALIZE THE lOGIC THERE MAKES NO SENSE!

You my dear don't seem to understand. The logic is right there and it makes perfect sense.

So what you said above you still believe then? You said you would save your mother over a stranger because you have an emotional bond. From a humanitarian perspective......does this mean your mother is better than that stranger? No, it doesn't. It just means that you have an emotional bond so it's obvious you would save her over the stranger. What if you had a pretty girl and a nice looking guy there, who would you choose and why?

Do you see what I mean?

 

[ABCs]

 

[the nut]

I have more respect for animals than I do most people. At least an animal can survive on its own. Look at all of the worthless humans that can't.

I'm not sure I agree with that, there have been entire species wiped out, and it's not always mankind's doing.

 

[mike456]

You my dear don't seem to understand. The logic is right there and it makes perfect sense.

So what you said above you still believe then? You said you would save your mother over a stranger because you have an emotional bond. From a humanitarian perspective......does this mean your mother is better than that stranger? No, it doesn't. It just means that you have an emotional bond so it's obvious you would save her over the stranger. What if you had a pretty girl and a nice looking guy there, who would you choose and why?

Do you see what I mean?

My mother has more value to me than any stranger! do you get that? that does not mean my mother is better than the stranger to me!

 

[the nut]

Who's the "Lucky Pierre".

 

[BigDyl]

You my dear don't seem to understand. The logic is right there and it makes perfect sense.

So what you said above you still believe then? You said you would save your mother over a stranger because you have an emotional bond. From a humanitarian perspective......does this mean your mother is better than that stranger? No, it doesn't. It just means that you have an emotional bond so it's obvious you would save her over the stranger. What if you had a pretty girl and a nice looking guy there, who would you choose and why?

Do you see what I mean?

He'd choose the guy. Sooo... not sure if I follow you.

 

[ABCs]

My mother has more value to me than any stranger! do you get that? that does not mean my mother is better than the stranger to me!

Give it a rest, they just aren't getting it.

 

[BigDyl]

My mother has more value to me than any stranger! do you get that? that does not mean my mother is better than the stranger to me!

She has value to me too: 10 bucks.

 

[Jodi]

My mother has more value to me than any stranger! do you get that? that does not mean my mother is better than the stranger to me!

Precisely my point. She has more value to you. As my dogs have more value to me than the stranger........ and the stranger has more value to me, than the ant. Neither of which make any of them better than an another. Just like your mother is no better than a stranger but to YOU she has more value.

See you do understand

 

[the nut]

Precisely my point. She has more value to you. As my dogs have more value to me than the stranger........ and the stranger has more value to me, than the ant. Neither of which make any of them better than an another. Just like your mother is no better than a stranger but to YOU she has more value.

See you do understand

If you had only laid it out in laymens terms 50 posts ago, this thread is moving so fast fireworks shot out of my PC.

 

[KelJu]

Black Strangers Are equal to White Strangers to me. Black strangers are not equal to White Freinds to me, and vice versa.

Of course not! You follow me on that then. So you see we are talking about different kinds of value. Most of the people saying equal value are only talking about inherent value.

Now, emotional value, or what you should said "worth" are different. My mom is worth more to me than any of my friends. I would kill, steal, and die for my mom. She easily ranks quantum leaps higher than anyone else in worth, but she has the same inherent value as every other living organism.

 

[KelJu]

Give it a rest, they just aren't getting it.

I see exactly what you are saying.