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After reading Stewarts thread, a ponderment came up...
Now, in Stewart's defense, he made a pretty good observation. He wants to bench 405 and declares that it is more rare than heavy squats and deads. Id agree. Anyone that does all 3 of these lifts usually has a high numbered squat/deadlift. Their numbers wont be too far off of each other either..
Stewart's assumption is that even though squat/deads are usually high numbers to an average gym rat (those who do them), their bench numbers are kinda average or just above average. 405 signifies an advanced bench number, IMO.
Now take the same case study examples (gym rats)....
Everyone would like to have high strength while still ahving a 6-pack, but as we all know, diet or not, its a bitch to achieve. You gotta work real hard to get those abs to show...which means dieting...which also means a possible DROP in strength everywhere.
So, everyone wants both, but whats more desireable? Bare in mind these are gym rats, not just anyone. A person who doesnt work out and weighs 150lbs might have a six pack naturally...were talking about WORKING to get one of these.

Now, in Stewart's defense, he made a pretty good observation. He wants to bench 405 and declares that it is more rare than heavy squats and deads. Id agree. Anyone that does all 3 of these lifts usually has a high numbered squat/deadlift. Their numbers wont be too far off of each other either..
Stewart's assumption is that even though squat/deads are usually high numbers to an average gym rat (those who do them), their bench numbers are kinda average or just above average. 405 signifies an advanced bench number, IMO.
Now take the same case study examples (gym rats)....
Everyone would like to have high strength while still ahving a 6-pack, but as we all know, diet or not, its a bitch to achieve. You gotta work real hard to get those abs to show...which means dieting...which also means a possible DROP in strength everywhere.

So, everyone wants both, but whats more desireable? Bare in mind these are gym rats, not just anyone. A person who doesnt work out and weighs 150lbs might have a six pack naturally...were talking about WORKING to get one of these.
