Arizona them dirty spic,jews

[GearsMcGilf]

We're all in complete agreement that you're humanity's greatest failure.

Nope! That would be the election of B. Husein Obama. Withoutrulers may be runner-up though since he thinks patrolling borders equates to totalitarianism. If the purpose is to keep people from escaping like they do in N.Korea or the old E.Germany, he might be right. But, I didn't realize that putting up a fence to prevent unlawful entry equals totalitarianism. In that case, I guess every nation that makes travelers entering from a foreign country pass through customs at the airport is also a totalitarian state.

 

[DOMS]

Fact after fact of info framed to serve agendas is still propaganda serving the masters. You're missing the larger point here. It would behove you to come to understand why these issues get discussed so loudly close to elections. They have no value, hurt no one except poor people incapable of defending themselves politically, and help to inspire knee jerk patriotism of the variety that blinds people to the true intentions of the ruling class. I really wish you'd watch that video link but i'm betting you'll just dismiss this as part of the "liberal conspiracy".

So, what you're saying it that facts like these just...misunderstood? Taken out of context?

• Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants. The largest gang in the US is composed almost entirely of illegals.
• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens.
• Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
• 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
• $90 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services.
• $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens.
• 12 Americans are killed by illegals every day, plus 13 killed by drunk Mexican drivers.

Those are facts, and just a few at that.

So please, explain to me how those facts don't matter.

 

[DOMS]

Nope! That would be the election of B. Husein Obama. Withoutrulers may be runner-up though since he thinks patrolling borders equates to totalitarianism. If the purpose is to keep people from escaping like they do in N.Korea or the old E.Germany, he might be right. But, I didn't realize that putting up a fence to prevent unlawful entry equals totalitarianism. In that case, I guess every nation that makes travelers entering from a foreign country pass through customs at the airport is also a totalitarian state.

I'm in complete agreement with that!

 

[withoutrulers]

Nope! That would be the election of B. Husein Obama. Withoutrulers may be runner-up though since he thinks patrolling borders equates to totalitarianism. If the purpose is to keep people from escaping like they do in N.Korea or the old E.Germany, he might be right. But, I didn't realize that putting up a fence to prevent unlawful entry equals totalitarianism. In that case, I guess every nation that makes travelers entering from a foreign country pass through customs at the airport is also a totalitarian state.

The purpose of a fence IS to keep people from escaping. Without a population to control what's the point of being in charge? Militarising the population with border patrols, and snitch hotlines is the fast track to totalitarianism. We will probably not ever agree on this issue but i've tried to share the info that drives my point of view. Take it or leave it.

 

[withoutrulers]

So, what you're saying it that facts like these just...misunderstood? Taken out of context?

• Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants. The largest gang in the US is composed almost entirely of illegals.
• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens.
• Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
• 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
• $90 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services.
• $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens.
• 12 Americans are killed by illegals every day, plus 13 killed by drunk Mexican drivers.

Those are facts, and just a few at that.

So please, explain to me how those facts don't matter.

Seriously, your entire argument is refuted on the video link. I'm not gonna hold my breath though.

 

[Tesla]

 

[DOMS]

Seriously, your entire argument is refuted on the video link. I'm not gonna hold my breath though.

I watched some of your retarded video.

He said, about a Mexican being found of in New York, "He's lucky of he doesn't end up in Guantanamo." He's so far into his own little world that he says shit like that. What's even more pathetic is that people like you eat it up.

Then he takes his anti-corporation mantra (that he always beats to death), and ties it into illegal immigration. He bitched more about American economics, almost none of which has anything to do with illegals, than the so-called racism of Arizona's right to protect itself.

That video is just as pathetic as your posts.

 

[unclem]

shit now how iam i going to get my fort dodge and syd group winni lol. hope it doesnt fuck with gear prices. imho

 

[withoutrulers]

I watched some of your retarded video.

He said, about a Mexican being found of in New York, "He's lucky of he doesn't end up in Guantanamo." He's so far into his own little world that he says shit like that. What's even more pathetic is that people like you eat it up.

Then he takes his anti-corporation mantra (that he always beats to death), and ties it into illegal immigration. He bitched more about American economics, almost none of which has anything to do with illegals, than the so-called racism of Arizona's right to protect itself.

That video is just as pathetic as your posts.

A healthy democracy requires multiple points of view. If we can't agree on this issue no harm no foul. But chomsky was saying nafta helped to devastate the mexican economy driving people north in search of work. The militarisation of the border was in anticipation of the influx of immigrants/refugees resulting from neoliberal economics being jammed down the throat of poorer countries. Nafta actually destroyed the mexican economy almost immediately. This required up till then the worlds largest bailout $50 billion dollars. The mexican government is an american lapdog taking bribes to look the other way while multinational corporation's business interests are pushed onto poor countries under the euphimism "globalisation". This was a completely onesided deal with enormous protectionary messures to assure that american business interests do not have to compete. One said messure was to put high tarriffs on the import of mexican tomatoes. The economic aspect cannot be overlooked when assessing immigration issues.

 

[Tesla]

A healthy democracy requires multiple points of view. If we can't agree on this issue no harm no foul. But chomsky was saying nafta helped to devastate the mexican economy driving people north in search of work. The militarisation of the border was in anticipation of the influx of immigrants/refugees resulting from neoliberal economics being jammed down the throat of poorer countries. Nafta actually destroyed the mexican economy almost immediately. This required up till then the worlds largest bailout $50 billion dollars. The mexican government is an american lapdog taking bribes to look the other way while multinational corporation's business interests are pushed onto poor countries under the euphimism "globalisation". This was a completely onesided deal with enormous protectionary messures to assure that american business interests do not have to compete. One said messure was to put high tarriffs on the import of mexican tomatoes. The economic aspect cannot be overlooked when assessing immigration issues.

Roids?

 

[withoutrulers]

Roids?

Are you asking if i'm on cycle or are you asking about an individual with that name?

 

[theCaptn']

 

[JCtex1977]

Touchy subject..........and everyones got an opinion. Only makes me hungry for some mescan food!

 

[withoutrulers]

Touchy subject..........and everyones got an opinion. Only makes me hungry for some mescan food!

I second that

 

[withoutrulers]

This show ain't free, say something hateful, irreverent, or racist right now goddammit!

 

[theCaptn']

anus-whispering immigrants are just here to rape your house pets!

 

[withoutrulers]

anus-whispering immigrants are just here to rape your house pets!

Thank you, i can now die knowing atleast SOMEONE will cannibalise my corpse. What do you suppose they're whispering into those anuses? Probably taco recipes

 

[theCaptn']

I believe it's some sort of ancient aztec curse

 

[withoutrulers]

I'm a little disappointed that the political discourse in here has flatlined but ain't that always the way. Non sequitor: Anyone ever pin their gears into their junk? I'm thinking that i'd do it for a fuck-ton of money.

 

[theCaptn']

no, but I thought about main-lining viagra

 

[HialeahChico305]

Now thats funny

Comes with:

-Butt kiss suction cut lips
-beeper headset for 24-hour boss access
-realistic head nodding action
-Fake annoying sarcastic laugh button

 

[withoutrulers]

Comes with:

-Butt kiss suction cut lips
-beeper headset for 24-hour boss access
-realistic head nodding action
-Fake annoying sarcastic laugh button

nicely done sir:

 

[GearsMcGilf]

The purpose of a fence IS to keep people from escaping. Without a population to control what's the point of being in charge?

The Obama regime and their state media are already doing a pretty good job of that w/out a friggin fence!

 

[DOMS]

A healthy democracy requires multiple points of view. If we can't agree on this issue no harm no foul. But chomsky was saying nafta helped to devastate the mexican economy driving people north in search of work. The militarisation of the border was in anticipation of the influx of immigrants/refugees resulting from neoliberal economics being jammed down the throat of poorer countries. Nafta actually destroyed the mexican economy almost immediately. This required up till then the worlds largest bailout $50 billion dollars. The mexican government is an american lapdog taking bribes to look the other way while multinational corporation's business interests are pushed onto poor countries under the euphimism "globalisation". This was a completely onesided deal with enormous protectionary messures to assure that american business interests do not have to compete. One said messure was to put high tarriffs on the import of mexican tomatoes. The economic aspect cannot be overlooked when assessing immigration issues.

So, it's NAFTA that has caused the exodus? That was passed in 1994, what was the cause before that?

Mexico is a third-world country that sits next an affluent (I'm not just talking about money) first-world country. Sure, NAFTA is the reason that they're coming here in droves. It has nothing to do with wanting to take advantage of someone else's prosperity.

Put another way, Mexico gained independence from Spain 18 years after the US gained its independence from the British. In that time, the US has gone on to become the world's only superpower and Mexico's claim to fame is its exports: people and drugs.

So yes, let's blame a trade agreement for millions of Mexicans flooding into the US.

 

[DOMS]

The Obama regime and their state media are already doing a pretty good job of that w/out a friggin fence!

Change you can believe in.

 

[GearsMcGilf]

X2 Yes, Mexico was so prosperous before NAFTA. Interesting how China's economy grew exponentially over a fairly short period of time when western countries established free trade and "pushed" multinational companies onto them. Yet, the same thing destroyed Mexico's prosperous economy.

You gotta love a guy who goes around quoting Noam Chomsky as an authority on these kinds of issues.

 

[Dark Geared God]

Thank you, i can now die knowing atleast SOMEONE will cannibalise my corpse. What do you suppose they're whispering into those anuses? Probably taco recipes

But the war of the Aztecs and the myians over who invented the burrito
has never been solved?

 

[Dark Geared God]

Comes with:

-Butt kiss suction cut lips
-beeper headset for 24-hour boss access
-realistic head nodding action
-Fake annoying sarcastic laugh button

 

[withoutrulers]

So, it's NAFTA that has caused the exodus? That was passed in 1994, what was the cause before that?

Mexico is a third-world country that sits next an affluent (I'm not just talking about money) first-world country. Sure, NAFTA is the reason that they're coming here in droves. It has nothing to do with wanting to take advantage of someone else's prosperity.

Put another way, Mexico gained independence from Spain 18 years after the US gained its independence from the British. In that time, the US has gone on to become the world's only superpower and Mexico's claim to fame is its exports: people and drugs.

So yes, let's blame a trade agreement for millions of Mexicans flooding into the US.

It isn't just nafta causing the mass exodus, that's an oversimplification. Along with the u.s. "war on drugs", nafta, and the utilization of the imf as a racketeering operation this all culminates into what is referred to as neoliberalism. This is a project that is extremely old. Proping up corrupt governments; Mexico, nicuraugua, colombia, this is part of the "zones of influence" type of world planning. This stems all the way back from the monroe doctrine which is our source for "manifest destiny". The economic fall out resulting from neoliberal policies is called an externality like he says in the video. When you have large numbers of poor people in dire straights, you can count on the crime rate going up. The answer to the problem isn't to keep them out, it's to change our foriegn policy. Blaming the poor people looking for a way to make it is like blaming the forest for the forest fire. Blame the right people. It is always the leaders. Your hatred for obama is completely warranted, he is not the savior of humanity. But this is true of every leader, and my suspiscion is that if a republican was in office this topic wouldn't even be discussed right now. This topic is extremely partisan and helps to keep the people divided and conquered. For the record i'm an anarchist, i have no vested interest in either party.

 

[withoutrulers]

X2 Yes, Mexico was so prosperous before NAFTA. Interesting how China's economy grew exponentially over a fairly short period of time when western countries established free trade and "pushed" multinational companies onto them. Yet, the same thing destroyed Mexico's prosperous economy.

You gotta love a guy who goes around quoting Noam Chomsky as an authority on these kinds of issues.

who would you say is more authoritative on this issue than chomsky? Beck, Limbaugh, savage, alex jones? I've yet to find someone who holds a candle to chomsky's insight. Howard Zinn wrote a book called "A People's History of the United States". I reccomend you read it. Your mockery of chomsky leads me to believe your opinion has been given to you by a t.v. personality. Maybe i'm wrong. I sincerely doubt you've read enough of chomsky's work to refute his arguments. Have you read even one of his books? Hegemony or survival, Failed States, Profit over people, 911, Perilous power. I've read more than a few. I'm no hero worshiper, the moment i find a fault i'll pounce on him like a three legged deer. So far his analysis is peerless. His book Understanding Power has so many works sited and notes, that it had to have an online index or the book would have been to thick to bind. His research is relentless. You should give him a read.