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Tears for Gears

Muscle Gelz Transdermals
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Everybody i've ever spoken too regarding PCT on this subject has stated a minimum time of 3 days and a maximum of 7 for beginning PCT when short acting esters are used.

If you could find some sort of medical publication or at least some research to back up your claims, otherwise ol'anecdotal evidence and past experience will have to do bud. If you do produce something i take my hat off to you and concede the point, after all it would then be good advice.

You linked with GenXXL somehow? Your buddy suggested this in a thread yesterday..
i'd recommend adding test prop wks 1-8 and then 2 days after last inject doing nolvadex only pct wk 1-40mg/day, wk2-30mg/day, wks 3 and 4-20mg/day
 
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3 weeks in , feeling pretty flushed right now. Mad swole in the gym too.

I hit 97kg/213lbs last night, gonna get bf taken tomoro i think that should put some perspective on gains so far.

Sides are running wild , sweating all night, waking up at odd hours and feeling a bit gyno prone last few days so I increased my aromasin to 25mg ED ,this seems to have done the trick. On a side note the first day i increased the ai i also increased my prami to .5 ,DO NOT FUCK WITH PRAMI, subsequently i will be staying at .25 from now on.

Got my Pfp250 x4 vials. i'm thinking about running it at 1ml ED for the last 4-5 weeks of my cycle ,this will mean 700mg prop / 525mg tren A / 525mg Mast per week. Anyone got experience with masteron? is there any point in just running it for a month or so ,it'll only be at 525mg/week~?

ROAST
 
what sort of prami sides were you getting RC?
 
Its hard to put my finger on exactly what i was feeling because i'm taking quite a few compounds which are all capable of doing some fucked up shit to you but nauseous is how i'd describe the last couple of days.

might have a before and so far photo later;)
 
which one? you and the goat?
 
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'Escutcheon' is an interesting term :thinking: . . . all I get is Shield
 
'Escutcheon' is an interesting term :thinking: . . . all I get is Shield

Lift up the tail. The area below the vulva, where the udder meets the vulva area. The higher the better. And hopefully instead of seeing a tight upside down V in this area you see lots of width, a big powerfully wide upside down U meaning she has width and heighth in the escutcheon.

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looking jerked RC :thumb:
 
Coming towards end of week 4 and i'm considering running Pfp250 @ 2ml eod for 8weeks .this means extending my cycle by a couple of weeks ,increasing tren a to 150mg eod and using masteron @150mg eod . anyone see any issues with doing this ?

i have 6 vials now which is enough for about 8 weeks but i will never run a cycle that short so i'm thinking i'll just tack it on to what i'm doing now ,afterall i'm using 2 out of 3 compounds in pfp250 so really its just adding mast.

R
 
you look great roast, very impressive, your chest is massive for the time you have in. your really cut good too. great work roast.:clapping:
 
Pfp250 is smooth gear friends . Its a bit of a relief to cut down on the amount of oil i was pinning even if its just small decrease, Doing my second shot tomoro...

100kg/225lbs on the scale tonite.:thumb:
 
Into week 6 and i've had 6 shots of pfp250, goota say my first impression was that this was smooth stuff but the last 4 shots i've had have near crippled me. I cold barely drive after glute shots let alone walk after quad shots.

My sides have been noticeably less after switching brands, i haven't experienced much bloat and my face is lookin normal as opposed to looking like a beetroot and i've dried out a lot, i wud put up a pic but i'm having tech problems, all you need to know is i'm 30 lbs heavier with little change in body composition

currently using 25mgs of Aromasin ED and 0.75ml of Prami

half way ,6 weeks left

ROAST
 
Looking really good roast, what size pins did you use for the susp at the start?
you probably wrote it down but i couldnt see it, although i was looking at my calculator as from the uk...lol.
Well done buddy.
 
man im glad your like your blend bro. that pic looks like your making some good lean gains!! keepw orking hard
 
Looking really good roast, what size pins did you use for the susp at the start?
you probably wrote it down but i couldnt see it, although i was looking at my calculator as from the uk...lol.
Well done buddy.

I think i used 22g 1.25" , i was originally gonna just use the same slin pins i was using for HCG but the susp ended up being 2ml so i had to use bigger barrels. Suspension is IMHO the dogs bollocks ,its just a bit time consuming pinning ED especially when your stacking with other compounds. I would definitely be interested running it for an extended period like 3-4 weeks whilst a long ester test like enth kicked in.

Martialartsman you thinking of using suspension?

R
 
man im glad your like your blend bro. that pic looks like your making some good lean gains!! keepw orking hard

Cheers DW !

Hopefully gettin my bf% read soon so i can see whats going on gains wise but generally more vascular and hard. I have to say the masteron is a stroke of genius it just compliments the other two compounds perfectly, it seems to just really control some of the more unwanted sides whilst giving an improved body composition.

Will get a halfway pic up real soon
 
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I have a 10ml vial and ive been thinking of using it with my cycle im on but wasnt sure when to slip it in as i already started it, was thinking of using it as you did on my next cycle but it goes out of date in october so not sure... Any ideas?
 
You could finish your cycle with it . What are you using? a long ester like enth you would leave like 14 days before starting PCT, so why not pin the suspension ED during the last 2 weeks of your cycle instead of 2x weekly shots of enth. Then you could start your PCT sooner and get on your next cycle sooner. This probably doesn't match up perfectly but other members can help you with the exact half lives of whatever you're using so you can keep even blood levels .

R
 
I'm a little behind with my pics here, about a week exactly. I'm now 6 weeks in half way thrugh cycle.

This is a shot at end of week 5, 35 days in

At this point i've gained 14kg or just over 30lbs, i had been shootin the PFP250 for only 7 days.

R
 
Weight seems to be reaching a plateau, happy with gains so far and i have a feeling that my composition will improve so i guess if it does improve and i sit at the same weight then that would be the great lean muscle mass gain!

Strength is right up , i've been focusing on bi-acromial bench press on a 41X0 tempo for the last training cycle and i have seen a 10 kg jump 2.5kg workout to workout for the last 4 sessions.

Sides are under control for now and mast is definetely hardening everything up , quads feel rock solid all the time feels great, every steps like a good rep right now.

Got a bit of mass under the nips , but not so worried about it because i usually get a flare up around now most cycles and this subsides after pct ,i'm feeling no itchyness just a bit puffy. Aromasin at 25mg and prami at .75 lookin to go to 1 soon just playing it out right now to gauge effects.

R
 
Into week 6 and i've had 6 shots of pfp250, goota say my first impression was that this was smooth stuff but the last 4 shots i've had have near crippled me. I cold barely drive after glute shots let alone walk after quad shots.

My sides have been noticeably less after switching brands, i haven't experienced much bloat and my face is lookin normal as opposed to looking like a beetroot and i've dried out a lot, i wud put up a pic but i'm having tech problems, all you need to know is i'm 30 lbs heavier with little change in body composition

currently using 25mgs of Aromasin ED and 0.75ml of Prami

half way ,6 weeks left

ROAST

Could it be the Testp causing the discomfort? Last cycle I used Sus 250, and
day after pinning, I could barely bend over LOL
 
^^^Weeeelllll i'm using 2 propionate esters; Test and Masteron so pain is inevitable, but it has got a lot better ,i've found my sweet spot on both quads now so i'm just switiching sides.

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Feeling fucking awesome - arms are hard and veiny relaxed, just got to look at some iron to get pump right now. I have been eating like a man possesed by rosie o'donnell but my weight has pretty much stalled at 100kgs/225lbs, i am getting leaner by the day and i'm convinced the tren is the culprit. THIS STUFF ROCKS MY WORLD...

Got some Winny Depot i'm going to add in on Monday, just for the crack really doubt it will really have a massive effect - i will be pinning 50mg EOD on top of my PFP250 , its water based so i will probably just slin pin it somewhere upperbody, should take me over 2g total per week for the last few weeks

Increased HCG to 500iu 2xweek thanks to Heavyiron for enlightening us all , i know its not EOD but its got to be as good as.

Roast
 
I've been at 1mg/1ml of prami for the last week or so and for anybody interested it is well worth persevering through the sides for a few days. I've found that as long as your smart and dose approx 2hrs before bed then sleep isn't affected.

Its hard to put my finger on any particular effects of prami but their is a noticeable difference in general wellbeing whilst on-cycle ,i think its helped with my aggression especially.

R
 
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