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I started taking zdom gear. I ordered Test C and Deca. Was on it for bout 3 weeks and took a urine test. By the fifth week, results came back negative. I discontinued use. Ordered urine test online. It is same brand sold at walgreens and other pharmacies. PHAMATECH. Used it before. And came back positive with chemicals I was taking. So my question is, has anyone else had this problem with z domestic line. I already contacted z, and does not believe me. Or has anyone taking the same test. Would like to get this resolved. spent 800 bucks total. Would like at least a good batch. I also have pictures of results from company website.
 
wait, what kind of drug test are you talking about
 
I don't think that kind of test is relevant to what you're taking. It simply doesn't test for those things...only for cocaine, marijuana, etc.
 
I think he's talking about the roid test PHAMATECH has you can pick up at walgreens or get online. It's a test you send off.
 
Oh, I see. Hard to believe Z would put out totally bogus oils though. That would make no sense; gearheads are always getting lab work.
 
coming from a paramedic this is the real test that you can pick up at walgreens for 75 dollars. It checks for like 15 types of steroids including testosterone itself.if you can please post up results from the lavatory.
 
Ok guys- we just did this over on another board. The guy ( poster) was taking watson for HRT and had stopped for quite awhile. His base reading was around 225 and when he was on the watson pharmacy cyp he was around 500, 100 mg per week only. So- he went and had his blood drawn and came back with a 225 for his baseline( pinning none). After only 4 weeks- he went back and he was pinning 125 mg weekly of Zline cyp. His levels were aroung 650 ish. Ok- this was his and the thread and is over on Elite. Hope I don't get in trouble for posting about another board- but thought it needed. His name is like hatter. I followed the thread and communicated very closely as I was running mine also. Set a baseline-I was very low-Doctor thought I was taking Watson or Teva and I started ZDom. My levels shot up like a rocket. I also measured in the ditch -so as not to get readings that were too high. But- they came in high anyway as I subQ rather than IM all the time. I do blood at my doctor and at a private anylabtest.com in person. I don't send it in. My point being that I have taken the time to do this and also have been in conatct with others - and have proved beyond a doubt that Z s gear is extremely good.I don't know what this guys tests are- and I will watch and see- but this is nothing new as many of us have done this before and Z gaer came through with flying colors to say the least !!I gave approx numbers to that other thread- but if you look at it, you will get the jest of it. Z also gave free gaer out over there for the doubter/ haters to test and they had to eat crow after talking trash. Note- I also tested my blood after using some other gear from different vendors- many failed- some passed. Z and a couple of others were in the GTG colum and that is why I am here as a Z fan. Sorry about my lame ass spelling and sentence structure- several of you guys know me and i don't type worth a shit. That is my story and can assure you that I have tseted just about every vendor out there. Z was at the top. Thanks for reading- take a peek at that thrad and is more descrptive than me teling it. I didn't just strat buying gaer and pinning- I actually tested to see which was the most efective for me. And i contiue to test and keep folks awre. Enough said-Z is the REAL DEAL :winkfinger:
 
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PS guys- I can undrstand Z not believing as we just did a ton of this testing and sent him the results. Most were from the Dom line - so I am a bit skeptical to say the least-Thanks
 
I have no clue who the Op is, but if ordawg1 says its quality gear, I believe him.
 
Good post bro. I would still like to see this guys results and pics of his z test if he still has it to see if he got some fake z if that's even out there. what he was running to me something should had came up on he's test. $800 is alot to spend to get some fake stuff. And if you have results of your z stuff I would love to see them as well.
ordawg1 said:
Ok guys- we just did this over on another board. The guy ( poster) was taking watson for HRT and had stopped for quite awhile. His base reading was around 225 and when he was on the watson pharmacy cyp he was around 500, 100 mg per week only. So- he went and had his blood drawn and came back with a 225 for his baseline( pinning none). After only 4 weeks- he went back and he was pinning 125 mg weekly of Zline cyp. His levels were aroung 650 ish. Ok- this was his and the thread and is over on Elite. Hope I don't get in trouble for posting about another board- but thought it needed. His name is like hatter. I followed the thread and communicated very closely as I was running mine also. Set a baseline-I was very low-Doctor thought I was taking Watson or Teva and I started ZDom. My levels shot up like a rocket. I also measured in the ditch -so as not to get readings that were too high. But- they came in high anyway as I subQ rather than IM all the time. I do blood at my doctor and at a private anylabtest.com in person. I don't send it in. My point being that I have taken the time to do this and also have been in conatct with others - and have proved beyond a doubt that Z s gear is extremely good.I don't know what this guys tests are- and I will watch and see- but this is nothing new as many of us have done this before and Z gaer came through with flying colors to say the least !!I gave approx numbers to that other thread- but if you look at it, you will get the jest of it. Z also gave free gaer out over there for the doubter/ haters to test and they had to eat crow after talking trash. Note- I also tested my blood after using some other gear from different vendors- many failed- some passed. Z and a couple of others were in the GTG colum and that is why I am here as a Z fan. Sorry about my lame ass spelling and sentence structure- several of you guys know me and i don't type worth a shit. That is my story and can assure you that I have tseted just about every vendor out there. Z was at the top. Thanks for reading- take a peek at that thrad and is more descrptive than me teling it. I didn't just strat buying gaer and pinning- I actually tested to see which was the most efective for me. And i contiue to test and keep folks awre. Enough said-Z is the REAL DEAL :winkfinger:
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I am not questioning the OP- merely pointing out that we have seen this before and what my results have been ( and many others) Over on another sponsor right here on this site we just saw " lab results" that " appeared" as if gear was bunk. After careful study- the report didn't mean much. I can post some results in a word doc- but again- sure won't mean anything. I buy gear- already have my blood tested- pin the gear- and check my blood again. But- there can be varibles- so I alawys contact several vets that I trust to make sure I am not missing something. If I like what I see- I tell folks. If it doesn't work for me-I don't post it telling the world what I spent all thsi $$$$- that is MY problem. If I don't have faith in a source- I don't go out and buy a laod- I buy a sample load. But- if I know the guys that are repoting and know they are GTG- I will buy a shitload. Pretty easy when you think about it.Otherwise it does sound like someone with just a few posts trying to get a FREEBIE.Also- dosen't seem like he did his homework. many other things to consider. Be smart with you $$$ and body. Read- learn and read some more. get to know folks- that dosen't happen with a few posts.OK- I'll shut the fuck up now-Thank You ( Rant Off)
PS-Not bashing- merely bringing up points-OK ( rant the fuck off)
 
We shall see.I feel you man.like my post I've been on his dom dbol with no gains at all.but I have to say z is on it.I pm him my order number and he said he is going to look at it.I've been on z for a few years and this is the first for me.but hey test don't lie.
 
I'm glad someone is on my page that's all I was saying not to step on nobodys toes. And yes I understand he's a newbie that was the first thing I looked at but he came asking a question not bashing on Z like some I know and yes that's a fact if you pm z or email him he will get back to you. And as for doing homework on the stuff your about to buy,yes you need to but like some only post there good results and keep quit about the bad or no results at all then how are people to know who to go with. I've always posted good things about z who knows maybe it's a bad batch and he needs to know about it we need to know about it that's all I'm saying .
Jasonshane said:
We shall see.I feel you man.like my post I've been on his dom dbol with no gains at all.but I have to say z is on it.I pm him my order number and he said he is going to look at it.I've been on z for a few years and this is the first for me.but hey test don't lie.
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Ohman, here we go again :coffee:

Ive tried Z's gear. Test Prop & Tren Acetate. I must say his tren was insane. I think the late 2nd week i had vascularity in my chest and traps.

I cant vouch for his orals, never tried them. I rarely run orals.


Ive seen a lot of Z bashing the last few months, but i just cant fall into it because Z has never done me wrong. I would like to see the test results OP. Im also a bit weary of some drug test you can buy in walmart. Im going to school right now to become a paramedic & one thing ive learned is nothing is ever what it really seems. Just my two cents.
 
WendysBaconator said:
Ohman, here we go again :coffee:

Ive tried Z's gear. Test Prop & Tren Acetate. I must say his tren was insane. I think the late 2nd week i had vascularity in my chest and traps.

I cant vouch for his orals, never tried them. I rarely run orals.


Ive seen a lot of Z bashing the last few months, but i just cant fall into it because Z has never done me wrong. I would like to see the test results OP. Im also a bit weary of some drug test you can buy in walmart. Im going to school right now to become a paramedic & one thing ive learned is nothing is ever what it really seems. Just my two cents.
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I guess when you have great gear- great service- fast delivery and you are a good person- it attracts the haters. The bashing is what drew me to Z. In business they alawys try to bash the best to get rid of them. No competition that way. But- also easy to read through. If they aren't talking about you- you probably aren't doing much- and Z is at the top:winkfinger:
 
ordawg1 said:
I guess when you have great gear- great service- fast delivery and you are a good person- it attracts the haters. The bashing is what drew me to Z. In business they alawys try to bash the best to get rid of them. No competition that way. But- also easy to read through. If they aren't talking about you- you probably aren't doing much- and Z is at the top:winkfinger:
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Ha i guess thats another way to look at it lol

I still wanna see this blood test :coffee: because i wanna try it personally :roflmao:
 
I was talking to Z about this guy after seeing something like ordwag and J84 has mentioned.

By the way - great job guys - breaking this down - the whole thing just didn't seem right.

After discussions with Z - I can promise you guys one very important subject with Z - if there EVER are any issues - he wants to know.

It's very simple - so he can take ownership - and correct it.

This is why (IMO) - he publicly asks for honest reviews from current and potential customers - you just don't do this UNLESS you have the product to back it up.

Honest reviews - the truth - it has a nice ring doesn't it ... "go figure." :daydream:

This is exactly why stand behind Z and his products - I'm not a rep - just one very loyal customer - who's getting to be one BIG MO-FO because of our good friend Z.

And all my good buddies here at the forum! :)

As always Z - if I'm ever wrong at all - "please correct me." :callme:
 
Ok. Wow alot has gone on since I been at work. These are the two pics I have. One of the test results and one of the box. The number for the company is 1-877-466-3837. There website is www.phamatech.com. I know the pic looks like I couldve done it on my computer, but anyone that has taken one of these tests can tell you this is what the page looks like. Corrections and probation officers use the same company for drug testing. They make all kinds of tests including steroids. Z told me he visited the website but still wasnt convinced. And for those whose say all I want is a freebie wrong. I bust ass for every penny I make. And I ask nothing for free. My post was merely a question. To see if anyone else had the same problem or has used this testing company so they could back me up on their validity. As far as the money, I did my research. And everyone said z was gtg. Im not bashing him or saying he is a ripoff. He could of simply had a bad batch. Just like people to keep an open mind and not assume everyone is out to get z. Thats not the case. Its a matter of principal. If you know something is wrong, you make it right. Thats all I'm saying
 
if i have never smoked pot before, then i smoke pot one night, then i take a piss test the next day will it show? or is the pot test designed to test for buildup of the drug over time, not just one use. What im saying is u took a test after 3 weeks of use of Deca, the excretion time for Nandrolone decanate (deca) is 21 days for it to metabolize and become a recognizable metabolite as waste (in urine). u said u were on it for 3 weeks, well then we have to look at your injection doses and frequency spacing. other anabolic substances may induce the walgreens test to fail in seeing the deca, and i still wanna know if the 3 weeks u were on it is = 21 days. The only thing i can suggest is that u take another test after the 4-5th weeks, but u said u discontinued use so u may have to restart your cycle. my chemistry may be rusty but i think im close to this point.
 
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