t3 + DNP

[bigbenj]

going to have to disagree..MOST, and I'll say it again..MOST guys on here run gear for all the benefits its gives. muscle strength, size, definition to a degree, it is NOT to break through a genetic limitation, we take it because naturally it would take longer, to just eat, train and get that 5-10lbs increase in 3 to 4 months, that would naturally take a year or two.

DNP when used correctly, is second to none in its ability to burn fat. Imagine an on average increase of 35-60% increase in metabolism, COMBINED with proper diet, and cardio if one were up to it, the results you could gain.

and dont get started on the poison this and poison that..considering some of the side effects that AAS carry with them. not to mention all the research that actually show DNP's beneficial/protective effects

THE BOLD AND UNDERLINED IS MY PROBLEM WITH IT. I dont see people saying "AAS is good, if youre up to the task of eating". With AAS its either shit, or get off the pot.

Im not saying every dnp user is lazy, I think its just that in my mind, I picture a typical dnp user to be someone who is lazy and unmotivated, just looking for a shortcut, to avoid having to work for it. Again, that underlined is my biggest problem with the mindset I think(not know, but just think) most dnp users have.

Im done hijacking the thread now. sorry.

 

[vindicated346]

bigbenji, I get you, and agree 100%, most of the guys who want to run it, are not informed, and just want the easy fix to having put on so much weight, DNP is def not the end all course of action when losing fat. just like AAS is not the easy way out to put on muscle, but SOO many uninformed guys do it daily

But if someone were dedicated, myself included, the results could be amazing..I'm doing a lean mass cycle. eating just at maintence, if not somewhat below it, still getting stronger from the AAS, but dropping good amounts of body fat..AT the same time, which by common knowledge isnt something your SUPPOSED to be able to do, lose weight and get stronger

But Trust me, I get where you are coming from, and the OP should post up diet

 

[bigbenj]

Respect.

 

[Dyers Eve]

You guys diet and do all the cardio you want if that makes you feel good about yourselves.
Me, I'll just take 2 caps of DNP along with a 3000 cals + a day and have visible veins in my abs within 2 weeks without beating myself into the ground and being hungry all the time.
DNP is magic in a pill.

 

[malcolm383]

To the guy who posted this thread, please post up what your REAL diet looks like, with a macro breakdown. I will bet my bottom dollar that his diet is crap.

First thing when I wake up I have one scoop of whey and 4 egg whites.
For a snack some sort of fruit with oatmeal.
For lunch chicken, brown rice, a tsp of olive oil, and some sort or vegetable.
For a snack a can of tuna and 2 hard boiled eggs.
For Dinner steak with brown rice.

 

[bigbenj]

thats not a lot at all. I dont see how you could be to the point of needing dnp. if youre really adhering to a diet like that, you should be pretty lean, as thats a very clean diet.

 

[bigbenj]

You guys diet and do all the cardio you want if that makes you feel good about yourselves.
Me, I'll just take 2 caps of DNP along with a 3000 cals + a day and have visible veins in my abs within 2 weeks without beating myself into the ground and being hungry all the time.
DNP is magic in a pill.

and you're the kind of person I picture. Just admit you're lazy and weak-minded and we'll call it a day.

 

[malcolm383]

thats not a lot at all. I dont see how you could be to the point of needing dnp. if youre really adhering to a diet like that, you should be pretty lean, as thats a very clean diet.

Yes it is and I was very lean but after my bulking cycle I gained quite a bit of fat.

 

[malcolm383]

and you're the kind of person I picture. Just admit you're lazy and weak-minded and we'll call it a day.

Or maybe he has better things to do than run on a treadmill...

 

[XYZ]

bigbenji, I get you, and agree 100%, most of the guys who want to run it, are not informed, and just want the easy fix to having put on so much weight, DNP is def not the end all course of action when losing fat. just like AAS is not the easy way out to put on muscle, but SOO many uninformed guys do it daily

But if someone were dedicated, myself included, the results could be amazing..I'm doing a lean mass cycle. eating just at maintence, if not somewhat below it, still getting stronger from the AAS, but dropping good amounts of body fat..AT the same time, which by common knowledge isnt something your SUPPOSED to be able to do, lose weight and get stronger

But Trust me, I get where you are coming from, and the OP should post up diet

Thank you.

Let me explain.......

I am so damn sick and tired of people saying the same old shit about DNP and T3 all the time. "I read........" STFU. Show me ONE study which shows that the use of T3 will cause harm, ONE.

"DNP is poison...." and so is tren but because everyone reads something on the internet that "it's cool" then we don't need to do any more research on it? Winstrol, anadrol, halo, dbol..................they are all toxic.

"DNP is for lazy people"........BULLSHIT. I've used it while doing 7-8 45 min cardio sessions a week because I was behind, nothing else. The stereotype is easy to see because yes, some guys are lazy but don't assume that everyone is, I am the furthest thing from lazy and I've used it.

DNP is a tool that is used for a specific purpose, respect it and be smart about it and everything is fine.

ANYONE who has never used DNP and is making comments about it, PLEASE shut the fuck up and keep your opinions to yourself. IF AND WHEN you decide to use it please feel free to give your thoughts.

Ok, sorry about that. Rant over.

 

[vindicated346]

You guys diet and do all the cardio you want if that makes you feel good about yourselves.
Me, I'll just take 2 caps of DNP along with a 3000 cals + a day and have visible veins in my abs within 2 weeks without beating myself into the ground and being hungry all the time.
DNP is magic in a pill.

I really want everyone to be educated about this compound, and having the thought process above is dangerous. Thats why I wont sell to just anyone. Its a great product, and is very safe, despite what most of the brainwashed would have you think. Just be smart in your approach and do more homework than you ever have, before you even consider doing it

 

[Dyers Eve]

I really want everyone to be educated about this compound, and having the thought process above is dangerous. Thats why I wont sell to just anyone. Its a great product, and is very safe, despite what most of the brainwashed would have you think. Just be smart in your approach and do more homework than you ever have, before you even consider doing it

What exactly is dangerous about taking 2 caps of DNP a day with a diet in the 3000-3300 per day range?
Ive done it plenty of times with great success.
Im not advocating taking a gram a day of the stuff a day while going to the all you can eat buffet.
I eat around my maintenance calories and lose weight. Its as simple as that.
Im not some fat slob, as I mentioned above I have a roadmap of veins running damn near everywhere on my body except on my ass. I take pride in staying lean and muscular, and I get comments on it daily.
If others want to suffer thru hunger and cardio, be my guest.
Please dont assume that I dont work out with weights. I do, and I bust my ass in the gym. I just dislike dieting and cardio with a passion.

 

[vindicated346]

Dyers, thank you for clarifying, what I meant by dangerous is..johnny nobody coming on here reading what you had to say about it being a magical pill, take this, and youll see veins, and abs in 2 weeks..that was the dangerous part

XYZ: well..that shit was just funny! It is frustrating hearing so many things about different compounds, none to me are more frowned on than DNP, but we'll educate those that really want to know, others can stay in the dark

 

[bigbenj]

Thank you.

Let me explain.......

I am so damn sick and tired of people saying the same old shit about DNP and T3 all the time. "I read........" STFU. Show me ONE study which shows that the use of T3 will cause harm, ONE.

"DNP is poison...." and so is tren but because everyone reads something on the internet that "it's cool" then we don't need to do any more research on it? Winstrol, anadrol, halo, dbol..................they are all toxic.

"DNP is for lazy people"........BULLSHIT. I've used it while doing 7-8 45 min cardio sessions a week because I was behind, nothing else. The stereotype is easy to see because yes, some guys are lazy but don't assume that everyone is, I am the furthest thing from lazy and I've used it.

DNP is a tool that is used for a specific purpose, respect it and be smart about it and everything is fine.

ANYONE who has never used DNP and is making comments about it, PLEASE shut the fuck up and keep your opinions to yourself. IF AND WHEN you decide to use it please feel free to give your thoughts.

Ok, sorry about that. Rant over.

Please read the first line, and tell me if it is correct or not. it states that DNP IS POISON

2,4-Dinitrophenol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[vindicated346]

By the vary definition of poison "substances that can cause disturbances to organisms, usually by chemical reaction or other activity on the molecular scale, when a sufficient quantity is absorbed by an organism", one could argue that exogenous testosterone is a "poison" to the body. Just depends on how you look at it.

DNP has been appropriated for a variety of purposes, but they're irrelevant to its use, efficacy, and safety as a drug in humans. DNP is a versatile chemical. If it happens to be explosive, how does that have any bearing on its suitability as a drug? Nitroglycerin has been used for over 100 years as a highly effective vasodilator in the treatment of chest pain and chronic heart failure... but it's also highly explosive and used to make dynamite. Does that make it a crude drug? Or a versatile chemical?

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[bigbenj]

Very true, very true.
While I still stand by my original post and feelings about a lot of dnp users, a couple of whom proved my point in this very thread, I will say that you have definitely educated me a little bit. I appreciate the way you went about explaining it, instead of throwing a temper tantrum like someone else. Now, maybe you can hook me up with some hahaha

 

[vindicated346]

I see no point in throwing a tantrum. I yell, you yell back, and it goes round and round like two internet tough guys..like I said I want to educate people on this topic, and I'm still learning more about it every day. Bibbenji you know where I am whenever youre ready

 

[bigbenj]

I need to be very educated first, but I am going to pm you to talk about it more, so you can school me further lol

 

[XYZ]

Bigbenj.............................................I love you.

 

[bigbenj]

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

[Mooksman]

this thread makes my wanna add dnp to my cycle

 

[bigbenj]

Me too....

 

[BP2000]

Bigbenj.............................................I schooled you.

 

[Deity]

K fuck it, I'm getting some dnp LOL. But first I'm going to make it a priority to learn everything I can about this shit so I don't screw myself with it.

 

[unclem]

if your a normal person you wont touch DNP its a bad drug, t3 is fine but DNP is to dangerous to fuck with imo.

 

[XYZ]

if your a normal person you wont touch DNP its a bad drug, t3 is fine but DNP is to dangerous to fuck with imo.

You're just uneducated on the compound, nothing more.

Chalk up another member to "brology".

 

[vindicated346]

Unclem, Im curious as to why you think its Too dangerous, but you are ok with the use of T3, considering DNP is muscle sparring, and T3 wastes muscle..just curious

 

[NPCSUPERHEAVY]

Dnp is risky business, amazing stuff but dangerous....

 

[TJTJ]

Dude WTF is DNP 2,4-Dinitropheno and why they hell would you take it?! fuckin' A MAN!

"Commercial DNP is primarily used for scientific research and in manufacturing. It has been used at times to make dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. It has also been used to make photographic developer, explosives, and pesticides."

Youre talking about a pill that was introduced 80yrs ago! In the fucking 1930s! Why would you want to bypass ATP?! Thats what give energy to every part of your body. It also causes release of calcium from mitochondrial stores and prevents calcium re-uptake.

So with T3 and DNP your bones, joints and shit are going to be weak and brittle IMO.

Its found in industrial waste, automobile exhaust. WTF?!

This was Information ^^^^^ is all from Wikipedia, which btw i dont really trust. But its out there.

I did find on a .gov site The uncoupling agent 2,4-dinitrophenol improve... [J Neurotrauma. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI it states..

It is now generally accepted that excitotoxic cell death involves bioenergetic failure resulting from the cycling of Ca2+ and the generation of reactive oxygen species (ROS) by mitochondria. Both Ca2+ cycling and ROS formation by mitochondria are dependent on the mitochondrial membrane potential (Deltapsi(m)) that results from the proton gradient that is generated across the inner membrane. Mitochondrial uncoupling refers to a condition in which protons cross the inner membrane back into the matrix while bypassing the ATP synthase.

As a consequence of this "short-circuit," there is a reduction in Deltapsi(m). We have previously demonstrated that animals treated with the classic uncoupling agent 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) show significant protection against brain damage following striatal injections of the NMDA agonist quinolinic acid (QA). In an effort to elucidate the mechanism of neuroprotection, we have assessed the effects of DNP on several parameters of mitochondrial function caused by QA.

The results presented herein demonstrate that treatment with DNP attenuates QA-induced increases in mitochondrial Ca2+ levels and ROS formation and also improves mitochondrial respiration. Our findings indicate that DNP may confer protection against acute brain injury involving excitotoxic pathways by mechanisms that maintain mitochondrial function.

So IDK what to believe.

It is though a know fact that 2,4-Dinitrophenol is used in the manufacture of dyes, wood preservatives, and as a pesticide.

I would like to know what happens to your body after you stop taking it, both physically, internally and for how long can you take it.

 

[Thresh]

DNP is mostly for lazy people, who dont want to take the proper steps with diet and cardio....and thats the truth.

By those standards steroids are also mostly for lazy people, who don't want to take the proper steps.....

See how you sound? DNP are just like steroids, they both have a lot of myth around them, but the fact is they both work.

You can run DNP without T3 and you'll be fine. I recommend a lower dose for longer period of time, for me the higher doses just made me sweat way to much to tolerate.


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