1-Andro questions, Just started

[200+]

So I just received my order of 1-Andro and I am excited to see what kind of gains I can get. I have a couple questions though... The first is, what dosage should I start and end with? I have read some starting lower and ramping it up, and the bottle states 3 to 6 a day. I don't think I want to go more than a 4 week cycle due to the fact that I have never taken any PH's before. So, should I start with 6 a day and continue for 4 weeks, or do it differently?

My other question is about PCT. Do I really need a serm like Nolva or Clomid? I have a fresh bottle of Anabolic-Matrix Rx for PCT, and have used it before with great experience. I plan on following up the cycle with AM for 4 weeks. Do I really need something else? If so, what is the easiest to use?

and for some background, I am 31, 6'3", currently 183lbs, my body fat is unknown, however fairly low, and have lifted for 10+ years (on and off, more off then on )

 

[Arnold]

You can use a SERM, however an OTC AI will work fine too.

You can taper up/down if you want, but I, and many users that have tested it, prefer to just use a 6 cap per day dose for 4-6 weeks.

 

[tatteredsaint]

I am on it right now and I tapered up but IMO it is not necissary to taper I am about 10 lbs heavier than you and am at 700mg with no problems,I would take 300mg for a couple days to see how you react to the compound then bump up to 600 for the remainder of your cycle , but that's just my opinion

 

[Mags]

Would decent trib and Nolva be an adequate PCT for 6 weeks of 600mg ED 1-Andro?

Cheers.

 

[Arnold]

Would decent trib and Nolva be an adequate PCT for 6 weeks of 600mg ED 1-Andro?

Cheers.

Yes.

 

[Mags]

Sweet. Cheers.

 

[workingatit43]

Would decent trib and Nolva be an adequate PCT for 6 weeks of 600mg ED 1-Andro?

Cheers.

That should work fine.

 

[Mags]

With 1-Andro would I need to run support supps. like saw palmetto or hawthorn berry etc?

Cheers.

 

[Arnold]

With 1-Andro would I need to run support supps. like saw palmetto or hawthorn berry etc?

Cheers.

no, its not liver toxic.

 

[Mags]

I was thinking more along the lines of covering any increase in blood pressure and possible change in prostate condition.

 

[Jonnyboy582]

Any DHT side effects with 1-Andro?

 

[Arnold]

Any DHT side effects with 1-Andro?

1-Andro does NOT convert to estrogen or DHT.

 

[Mags]

I know recent feedback has shown hardly any side effects (apart from a little acne here and there), but I'd still like to cover my bases 'health wise'. I read this on Bodybuilding.com ages ago (which means it might well not apply to newer versions of 1-AD, or be inaccurate after more indepth, newer research), and thought it would be worth a read.

"1-AD is an oral only compound that converts to a different target hormone altogether, namely 1-testosterone. Early data� suggests that 1-testosterone is 700% more anabolic than testosterone. How that translates in real world terms is yet to be determined. From the testimonials (they are limited) I've read the gains are slightly better than those of Nor-diol, so that would be a significant improvement, though not quite as high as the percentage might suggest. There was an initial dione version, but I believe that has been pulled and all 1AD currently available is diol. Again that means no estrogenic conversion prior, but none post-conversion either because 1-test doesn't aromatize. It's a derivative of the androgenic compound DHT, meaning that it has already undergone 5-alpha-reductase and cannot under any circumstances form estrogen.

The androgenicity is still very much an issue. It can convert to DHT via a different pathway (I should say convert back) but it's not known to what extent or what effects it has. So far no one has reported any serious side effects in this nature, but neither has there been any rigorous large-scale testing. The jury is still out on what this means to people who are at risk for things like prostate enlargement and hair loss."

I don't know the ins and outs of 1-Andro's chemical composition, so the above might not even apply. However, if 1-Andro is 'regular' 1-AD (and I mean this in no derogatory sense), then the above might hold some truth. Again, I'm not trying to shoot the product down, just trying to address all areas that might need covering on a 1-AD cycle e.g. DHT-related sides.

 

[Arnold]

1-Andro is not the same compound as the original 1-AD.

 

[Mags]

1-Andro is not the same compound as the original 1-AD.

Awesome, thanks. After rustling up some extra cash, mine should be here next week.

 

[Jonnyboy582]

Thanks for the info. My hair is already thin (my mom's side) so I try to stay away from anything that is known for DHT. Thats the main reason im on a 19-nor product right now.

 

[Hench]

Awesome, thanks. After rustling up some extra cash, mine should be here next week.

Are you going to log it like you did the 1T/Hdrol?

 

[Mags]

Are you going to log it like you did the 1T/Hdrol?

Yeah, I might do. As this is a new product to the market, I guess the more accounts we have of its effects - good or bad - the better. However, my system is still getting back to normal after the H-drol/1-T cycle, so I want to make sure my health is ship shape before diving into another cycle. And even then, I might train naturally for a while. However, we all know what it's like when you're all geared up to start a cycle (no pun intended), so could well start the 1-Andro sooner rather than later. I'll see what my blood work says and what the doctor advises. Either way, I'll keep you guys posted.