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Alot of people say te amout of time you spend on AAS the same amount of time you should stay off?

Say some one was to blast and cruise for a year then decides to come of would standard PCT be enough ( clomid and nolva) or should they stay on for a extra week or 2 on the clomid and nolva??

what legal supps should one be taking if they have been blasting and cruising for a year or slightly over then decide to come off?


Natty test boosters?

Anything?
 
We're you taking HCG during what is effectively a year long cycle?

Your leydig cells are likely extremely suppressed (some degree of which could be irreversible). I'd start with HCG and HMG blasts while still on, then take a fairly aggressive approach to PCT. Then get blood-work done, assess and act accordingly.

Some people can pop right back into normal function after years being suppressed, but the rest face longer and harder recovery processes.
 
No hcg whilse on and none available, there is only clomid and nolva and some letro here.

So hcg aside what's a "fairly aggressive" approach to pct?

Cycle start ted of last year on test p tren a cruised with prop then done test and dbol, don't think it's been a year but almost there abouts.


Il keep updated how I feel ect

And when is best to get bloods x amount of time after pct?
 
Also look into triptorelin
 
Mr Persistent said:
No hcg whilse on and none available, there is only clomid and nolva and some letro here.

So hcg aside what's a "fairly aggressive" approach to pct?

Cycle start ted of last year on test p tren a cruised with prop then done test and dbol, don't think it's been a year but almost there abouts.


Il keep updated how I feel ect

And when is best to get bloods x amount of time after pct?
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It wouldnt hurt to get blood now as well. IMO
 
You're shorting the effectiveness of PCT without HCG -- not the end of the world but set your expectations accordingly.

Bloodwork now would help determine more effective dosing, but if you're as shutdown as I'd imagine, I'd go:

Clomid - 50/50/50/50 - some would say as much as 100mg dosages, I personally don't like to bring out the inner woman in me...
Nolva - 20/20/20/20 - continue dosage two weeks after stopping clomid (depending on bloodwork after your first PCT run)

Get bloodwork done again and reassess.

If you can get triptorellin take a single 100mcg dosage at the beginning of PCT.
 
Sounds like a bad idea. y come off these r things one should think about before blasting and cruising its life long
 
plazmic said:
You're shorting the effectiveness of PCT without HCG -- not the end of the world but set your expectations accordingly.

Bloodwork now would help determine more effective dosing, but if you're as shutdown as I'd imagine, I'd go:

Clomid - 50/50/50/50 - some would say as much as 100mg dosages, I personally don't like to bring out the inner woman in me...
Nolva - 20/20/20/20 - continue dosage two weeks after stopping clomid (depending on bloodwork after your first PCT run)

Get bloodwork done again and reassess.

If you can get triptorellin take a single 100mcg dosage at the beginning of PCT.
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i wouldnt run clomid unless you had to ie tren/deca/npp. It fucks with your head way to much and can make you really depressed. run Nolva and HCG, keep your carbs high eat clean to maintain your gains and get blood work done often to see your improvements. If nothing happens go see a dr. unless you want to go back on cruising.
 
theres actually several studies done on high dose long term clomid and its increases on exogenous t

when I say long high dose, I'm talking like 100mg ed for several months

a couple of natural kick in the pants so to speak (which will NOT replace pharmaceuticals)are stinging nettle and cod liver oil... but those are more like, something you try AFTER a good pct
bloods now would definitely help give an idea what direction needs to be taken
 
Several months of high dose clomid would be crazy. I used it once and never again. Crazy anxiety, emotions, and depression.
 
rippedgolfer said:
Several months of high dose clomid would be crazy. I used it once and never again. Crazy anxiety, emotions, and depression.
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Everyone different. My best friend is diabetic, and his health is overall poor. His doc has him on Clomid for low T. 25 mg for over a year and his T is a steady 880. He loves it, no sides at all but the good ones. If I came off a B-C over a year, I would hit the Clomid .
 
AMA Rider said:
Everyone different. My best friend is diabetic, and his health is overall poor. His doc has him on Clomid for low T. 25 mg for over a year and his T is a steady 880. He loves it, no sides at all but the good ones. If I came off a B-C over a year, I would hit the Clomid .
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I hear ya. Just not for me. It got me so worked up, I sold all my stash which was over 30 amps of Norma test and over $200 of ancillaries plus all my pins and a few vials i won in a contest. I said if I ever have to take this crap again I don't want to use AAS. Fortunately I'm on TRT now so just blast and cruise. I now know how women feel during that time of the month. It was a roller coaster ride of emotions.
 
There are also studies of one bump of letro 2.5 mg Ew could put you over normal range
 
Well let me just say I'm 25 years old and I'm in this for the long haul now..

I started PCT and was recommended a high dose of clomid on day1 to "kick start" the process 300mg then 150mg day 2 then 100mg for rest of week then would taper down to normal dosages... (That was the plan) and nolva kept same protocol no "kickstarting" with that.


Anyway a few days in was feeling really lathergic was getting harder to get up in the mornings and just a all around feeling of shitness.

I don't know if it's just me but I'm in a relationship right now and when I'm on even just cruising at basic levels I feel great all the time and is almost asif my misses can just smell the test of me! I become more attractive to women fullstop.

I read somewere when your on pct whell clomid in particular you become almost like a women to other women in a chemical sense if you get what I'm saying lol

Clomid is horrific stuff and the week I was on it, it made me want to cuddle and watch movies lol and like some one said it really brings your emotions out like a women haha horrible stuff!!!

So yeah I'm back cruising anyway I took a 5 week dbol cycle at the start of the year. But im saving my next cycle which will be a tren one untill end of next month start of June time.i won't go on about the magical stuff we call tren it's just truely amazing stuff.. It will send you crazy but dam you feel great on it.

Anyway yeah I couldn't take it Beeing full of estrogen no sir.

Thanks for all your advise tho and yes blood work is essential I know this I'm contemplating coming clean with my doc, he always asks if I'm taking aas anyway when I see him but im yet to admit it.
 
Bro at 25 u could b doing damage that's not reversible. Do u want kids one day? There's a lot to think about. If u can't come off now will u ever b able to?
 
vicious 13 said:
Bro at 25 u could b doing damage that's not reversible. Do u want kids one day? There's a lot to think about. If u can't come off now will u ever b able to?
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Very good point I'm running tren a right now I'm going to start blasting hcg and stop teen run test p in its own for a week or 2 longer then pct get blood work and IF god willing I recover I will probably stay of AAS for a good year or so I feel like my body is adapted to all the gear and my gains are not as they should b :/
 
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