15 days into testosterone enanthate cycle, up 8lbs

[Dadeco]

15 days into testosterone enanthate cycle, up 8lbs. Does Test e usually work this fast? my strength is up, not by a crazy amount but it is up.

i started at 174 lbs. im currently at 182.0 lbs.

so far im happy, some days i wake up feeling a little weird the morning after injection day, but so far so good. Haven't had any shrinkage yet either.

Im currently Dosing at roughly

@262 mgs twice a week (mon-thur)
0.5mg arimidex EOD

no bloat at all.

This is my first cycle ever, just basically want to know if the test e usually kicks in this fast?

cause its been 15 days and im up 8lbs already. its crazy. im not complaining tho. i been eating like crazy.

also when should i expect shrinkage? i was doing research and was reading it starts at around 2-3 weeks. so far i see no difference.

im 5'10
now at 182.0lbs

thanks everybody

 

[independent]

Sounds like your test is legit. Shrinkage usually happens around week 4, get some hcg and you wont have to worry about it.

 

[sofargone561]

Run the HCG off cycle i wouldnt run it on cycle your basically telling your body two different things. test tells your body to shut off the testicle from making test becuase your body has to much hcg tells your body to turn it on. yes it will keep you balls from shrinking if you take HCG on cycle but idk where this started. take it off cycle after your blast or during your PCT. i never even use HCG and the shrinking isnt permanent they always go back to normal

 

[Hammer925]

Not telling you that you shouldn't run HCG, but I ran my first cycle (Test P for 10 weeks 500mg/week and Arimidex .25mg ed) and my testes were back to normal size within 2-3 weeks after cycle. Of course I was running both Nolva and Clomid.

 

[sofargone561]

^ my first cycle was
1-10 test e 500mg/ew
1-10 proviron 50mg/ED
1-4 SDMZ as directed/ed

used aromasin as AI and clomid and aromasin as PCT. i recvovered fine kept almost all my gains and testes grew back to normal with no problem. Running HCG is fine i just dont think it should be done on cycle

 

[Dadeco]

that gives me some good confidence

Not telling you that you shouldn't run HCG, but I ran my first cycle (Test P for 10 weeks 500mg/week and Arimidex .25mg ed) and my testes were back to normal size within 2-3 weeks after cycle. Of course I was running both Nolva and Clomid.

 

[Dadeco]

Did you lose any strength after cycle? if so how much?

^ my first cycle was
1-10 test e 500mg/ew
1-10 proviron 50mg/ED
1-4 SDMZ as directed/ed

used aromasin as AI and clomid and aromasin as PCT. i recvovered fine kept almost all my gains and testes grew back to normal with no problem. Running HCG is fine i just dont think it should be done on cycle

 

[independent]

Run hcg, theres no sense in shutting down the testes only to restart them. Yes you can do it but recovery is way easier with it.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Run the HCG off cycle i wouldnt run it on cycle your basically telling your body two different things. test tells your body to shut off the testicle from making test becuase your body has to much hcg tells your body to turn it on. yes it will keep you balls from shrinking if you take HCG on cycle but idk where this started. take it off cycle after your blast or during your PCT. i never even use HCG and the shrinking isnt permanent they always go back to normal

Sorry brother,

Running HCG while "on" will keep Lh elevated, and within normal ranges, while still supplementing exogenous amounts of test, kind of tricking the body that it is not shutdown associated with aas use when in reality it is. Unfortunately, when you run HCG during PCT you are now only mimicking LH levels rather then restoring them, Essentially leading to a false signal, resulting in more shut down as you PCT.

Discontinuing use right before starting PCT will keep LH up, and as you start PCT you will then have a kind of jump start, that will then rise LH naturally through the means of PCT thus restoring your endocrinologic functions.

 

[sofargone561]

Sorry brother,

Running HCG while "on" will keep Lh elevated, and within normal ranges, while still supplementing exogenous amounts of test, kind of tricking the body that it is not shutdown associated with aas use when in reality it is. Unfortunately, when you run HCG during PCT you are now only mimicking LH levels rather then restoring them, Essentially leading to a false signal, resulting in more shut down as you PCT.

Discontinuing use right before starting PCT will keep LH up, and as you start PCT you will then have a kind of jump start, that will then rise LH naturally through the means of PCT thus restoring your endocrinologic functions.

Well you learn something knew every day. Thanks for the post OSL.

As for your question OP you will always lose size and strength when you get off cycle and PCT how much all depends. If you PCT correctly and keep training hard and eating right then your lose will be minimal. If you stop killing it in the gym because your no longer on and you dont eat or PCT right you could lose almost if not all your gains.

and just a heads up to the OP OSL is the guy who set up my first cycle. I have learned many things from him. If he tells me to do or not to do somthing I trust that and dont do it or do it. He has science as you can see behind his reasons. So if you want to run HCG on cycle i stand corrected and based on the above post you can.

Oh and just another thing on the testicular atrophy some people have this problem i should say most people will get some shrinkage. Some guys get it worse then others but there are some guys who get barely any if at all. Not sure why. They will go back to normal once your off and PCT correctly though.

 

[Dadeco]

thanks for the replies. really helpful.

for pct i have lined up are:

nolva and clomid as of right now.
going to be ordering Hcg next week so i will run that along with my nolva and clomid

As for the cycle i think im going with 12 weeks, we'll see how it goes later on down the road, but nothing short of 10 weeks. just throwing that out there

Thanks for all the info on HCG on/off cycle. real helpful

 

[Superset101]

Hcg is always best IMO during cycle, you dont want to over stimulate with a large dose or two during pct, its counter productive.

Good luck with your cycle!



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[BigWorm]

15 days into testosterone enanthate cycle, up 8lbs. Does Test e usually work this fast? my strength is up, not by a crazy amount but it is up.

i started at 174 lbs. im currently at 182.0 lbs.

so far im happy, some days i wake up feeling a little weird the morning after injection day, but so far so good. Haven't had any shrinkage yet either.

Im currently Dosing at roughly

@262 mgs twice a week (mon-thur)
0.5mg arimidex EOD

no bloat at all.

This is my first cycle ever, just basically want to know if the test e usually kicks in this fast?

cause its been 15 days and im up 8lbs already. its crazy. im not complaining tho. i been eating like crazy.

also when should i expect shrinkage? i was doing research and was reading it starts at around 2-3 weeks. so far i see no difference.

im 5'10
now at 182.0lbs

thanks everybody

Your test is looking legit, but I would say right now your are experiencing the "placebo" affect. I did it and have seen numerous guys on their first cycles go through it. You push a little harder and watch your form just a little bit better since you are telling your self consciously/subconsciously that you want to get all you can out of your cycle. With Test E you'll start seeing full effects around weeks 3-5, enjoy the ride.

Also might watch that adex dosing for a first cycle, with your weight and being your first cycle I would probably have waited to see how you responded to the higher E2 levels. You start to get any joint pain or see some libido issues I would dial back that adex, crashing your E2 SUCKS.

 

[Dadeco]

maybe thats it!! i started taking adex around day 5 mainly cause i was paranoid. the last time i took it was on sunday, i was supposed to take it again yesterday but decided not to. my sex drive it down, way down, i mean i can still get it up and everything, but its not the usual for me. i took adex a total of 4 times at 0.5mg. could that be causing decrease in libido? with only roughly 4 times of use? and could i continue to discontinue adex with no problems?

thanks bro

 

[BigWorm]

Since you started it I wouldn't just scrap the adex or you'll probably see an E2 spike and without knowing how your body reacts to the E2 I wouldn't risk it. I would definitely dial it down quite a bit maybe .25mg e3d.

Being your first cycle and what is basically your standard 500mg/week Test E/C beginner cycle(don't mean that bad, that's a good thing since your doing it right and doing a basic first cycle like everyone should) anyhow at 500mg of test E a week unless you turn out to be really gyno prone your sides should be minimal. Most keep nolva/clomid/adex/etc... around in case sides show up during a 500mg/week cycle. With the exception of HCG you could have probably stuck to just true PCT, but by starting off on an inhibitor I wouldn't just stop it cold turkey.

I would even say that your body was probably just getting to the point of adjusting to the higher test levels and your E2 levels were probably not even starting to elevate that much yet.

You'll be fine, get your self some labs in about 2 more weeks to see where your levels are at.

 

[blergs.]

15 days into testosterone enanthate cycle, up 8lbs. Does Test e usually work this fast? my strength is up, not by a crazy amount but it is up.

i started at 174 lbs. im currently at 182.0 lbs.

so far im happy, some days i wake up feeling a little weird the morning after injection day, but so far so good. Haven't had any shrinkage yet either.

Im currently Dosing at roughly

@262 mgs twice a week (mon-thur)
0.5mg arimidex EOD

no bloat at all.

This is my first cycle ever, just basically want to know if the test e usually kicks in this fast?

cause its been 15 days and im up 8lbs already. its crazy. im not complaining tho. i been eating like crazy.

also when should i expect shrinkage? i was doing research and was reading it starts at around 2-3 weeks. so far i see no difference.

im 5'10
now at 182.0lbs

thanks everybody

its mostly bloat/water... dont get too excited....

 

[Dadeco]

its mostly bloat/water... dont get too excited....

lol yes i know that, im mainly excited that so far the test is legit. ofcourse water retention is expected. but still cool to see the scale hit places it never been before. i know its nothing but its extra motivation lol

Just curious to know tho, is 15lbs lean body muscle doable on first cycle?

 

[blergs.]

lol yes i know that, im mainly excited that so far the test is legit. ofcourse water retention is expected. but still cool to see the scale hit places it never been before. i know its nothing but its extra motivation lol

Just curious to know tho, is 15lbs lean body muscle doable on first cycle?

first cycle, yes it is very possible.

generally im happy with 5-8lb LEAN off each cycle,but thats after working out for years and doing a bunch of cycles. 15 is very possible on first cycle. but keeping up on diet AFTER cycle and with proper training is a very important factor in keeping those gains.
GOOD LUCK!!

 

[Standard Donkey]

Just curious to know tho, is 15lbs lean body muscle doable on first cycle?

depends on the first cycle...length, compounds, dosages, etc.. is it likely? no.. water, glycogen, fat, muscle..

 

[Dadeco]

yessir, so far diet, training and sleep is in check. I will keep updated and post some before and after pics when im done. thanks

 

[s2h]

lol yes i know that, im mainly excited that so far the test is legit. ofcourse water retention is expected. but still cool to see the scale hit places it never been before. i know its nothing but its extra motivation lol

Just curious to know tho, is 15lbs lean body muscle doable on first cycle?

3-4lbs is more realistic for a first cycle...then drop to 2-3lbs or less as you continue cycle....now of course this is a general average and based on guys that aren't using GH/slin/peptides....

Many mistake intramuscular water retention as lean muscle gained...think about it if you gained 15lbs of muscle per cycle we would all be 400lbs of solid muscle...in 5 years...2-3lbs is good..

 

[SlappyTX]

your weight will fluctuate depending on a lot of factors. hydration level and how much food you have in your digestive system have a large impact on this. try weighing your self before bed and then again in the morning, you will probably see a drop in weight from water lost while you were sleeping.

15-20 lbs increase is totally feasible if you keep eating. however, it will by no means be all LBM.

if you want to lift like a champ, you have to eat like a champ.