Advice on setting up superdrol cycle...

[thebig_dog]

Hi everyone,
Im looking to start up a cycle of superdrol, but havent decided yet on what to do exactly. I am a fairly experienced pro hormone user, as i have done multiple cycles. Last time that i did superdrol i did a basic 4 week cycle, one bottle, 30 mgs a day. The last cycle i did was a 6 week stack of Orastan A and a halodrol clone (h drol). The last cycle i did i increased dosage as i went, but ended up using 75 mg of halo a day along with 125 mg of orastan a day. The cycle left me strong, and it was a reasonable dosage for me, i could have handled more if i had choosen to extend the length of the cycle. My situation now is deciding whether to up my dosage of superdrol daily and/or extend the cycle to 6 weeks. I am 175lbs, 6 foot and 22 years old. I have been lifting for about 6 years hard now, and have experience with many different supplements. Would anyone be willing to give me their opinion on what i should do?

Thanks guys

 

[OneWheyOrAnother]

Hi everyone,
Im looking to start up a cycle of superdrol, but havent decided yet on what to do exactly. I am a fairly experienced pro hormone user, as i have done multiple cycles. Last time that i did superdrol i did a basic 4 week cycle, one bottle, 30 mgs a day. The last cycle i did was a 6 week stack of Orastan A and a halodrol clone (h drol). The last cycle i did i increased dosage as i went, but ended up using 75 mg of halo a day along with 125 mg of orastan a day. The cycle left me strong, and it was a reasonable dosage for me, i could have handled more if i had choosen to extend the length of the cycle. My situation now is deciding whether to up my dosage of superdrol daily and/or extend the cycle to 6 weeks. I am 175lbs, 6 foot and 22 years old. I have been lifting for about 6 years hard now, and have experience with many different supplements. Would anyone be willing to give me their opinion on what i should do?

Thanks guys

Holy sh*t dude. a 4 week cycle of SD @ 30mg ED is not a basic cycle lol... That's definitely an advanced cycle.

Either way dude, all these oral cycles you are doing are really going to be taxing on your body. What type of preventative measures are you taking for blood pressure, cholesterol and liver values?? I hope at the very least you are taking milk thistle.... I know you really don't want to hear this dude, but what I would do before choosing my next cycle is get some blood work done to make sure everything is within healthy range first.

Check out this thread here.

Next what type of goals are you looking for? What is your current body fat % ?? More information is needed before anybody can help you. Are you looking to bulk? clean bulk? cut?

Either way, I think as far as Superdrol goes, it's not going to much more for you since you've already ran it at such a high dose, once I did that, I ended up bridging it with Phera Plex to switch things up. Either way, once you give me a little more info, I would gladly share my opinion!

 

[PreMier]

shit, i really dont know why people are pushing cycle support (milk thistle) and shit so much.. its seems like the next biggest $$ maker for supplement companies. anyway, a basic cycle is not 30mg/ED for 4 weeks..

always step up on the cycle, because you can get the same gains by using less in the beginning a lot of the time. there are tons of posts on here if you search.

 

[thebig_dog]

Of course this is all assuming im taking the proper supplements to support the healthiest possible cycle. im already taking milk thistle, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, Alpha-lipoic Acid, and a couple more compounds, also ill be on a diet which will help to regulate things such as my cholesterol on cycle, as well as proper post cycle. My body fat is at 12% right now, and im looking for a clean bulk gain. Dont really have a specific weight that im looking to obtain, just want to see good clean results. And im sure i could figure this all out by researching over the site, ive just spent plenty of time in the past doing it and thought i could take the easy way out on this one perspective since i worked so hard on the rest of my nutrition and workout plann

 

[PreMier]

ok, after deciding to do a little research on the matter i came up with a new conclusion..

here is a guy using aas and milk thistle, and he had blood tests done, and his lipid profile is fucked http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/66173-blood-work-back-holy-s-t.html

i know that m1t and superdrol are extremely harsh methyls (arguably the worst on your liver). so i honestly doubt that milk thistle is going to make that much of a difference..

on the flip side of that LAM said that you should use it whenever you are using any type of 17aa methyl, and his knowledge is highly regarded IMO. so i searched milk thistle and cholestatic liver disease to see what i could find.

"Milk thistle's efficacy is not established."

"Clinical efficacy of milk thistle is not clearly established."

so.. what does this mean? for something sever like liver disease, its probably not going to do much.

on the other hand, i have read that it shows improvement in those people that use alcohol, acetaminophen, and other toxins.. milk thistle appears to protect and heal the liver in three primary ways, "First, it acts directly on the cell membrane of the liver, and probably most other cells of the body by stabilizing and strengthening that structure. In support of this concept is the finding that milk thistle extract and some of the toxins actively compete for the same cell-membrane receptor sites. That toxins are unable to affect cell membranes in the presence of milk thistle extract argues for the stabilizing action of these substances."

"The observable result, is the regeneration of liver cells," indicating that milk thistle's compounds are excellent free-radical-scavenging antioxidants.

"It interferes in the production of leukotrienes and stimulates protein synthesis"

It is suggested, in fact, that one of the ways milk thistle speeds up the regeneration of damaged liver tissue is by signalling for cellular protein synthesis. (pulled here Milk thistle: powerful antioxidant for liver protection & body detoxification | Better Nutrition | Find Articles at BNET )


my conclusion

its a cheap supplement, and you can even buy pure extract from whole food stores. so what the hell, use it if you feel you need the benefit.

 

[PreMier]

Of course this is all assuming im taking the proper supplements to support the healthiest possible cycle. im already taking milk thistle, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, Alpha-lipoic Acid, and a couple more compounds, also ill be on a diet which will help to regulate things such as my cholesterol on cycle, as well as proper post cycle. My body fat is at 12% right now, and im looking for a clean bulk gain. Dont really have a specific weight that im looking to obtain, just want to see good clean results. And im sure i could figure this all out by researching over the site, ive just spent plenty of time in the past doing it and thought i could take the easy way out on this one perspective since i worked so hard on the rest of my nutrition and workout plann

so lift heavy, eat healthy and start at 10mg/ED and work your way up to 40mg/ED (thats if progress stalls at a lower dose).

 

[Pirate!]

I am a fairly experienced pro hormone user, as i have done multiple cycles. I am 175lbs, 6 foot and 22 years old. I have been lifting for about 6 years hard now

You will only do yourself damage until you invest enough of your focus on refining your diet and exercise. Especially your diet.

 

[kicka19]

i dont agree with cycle support supps, the supps are basically worthless, listen to your body and use stuff in moderation, a little herb there and a little extract there is a drop in the ocean, not worth it

 

[ZECH]

i dont agree with cycle support supps, the supps are basically worthless, listen to your body and use stuff in moderation, a little herb there and a little extract there is a drop in the ocean, not worth it

I disagree. I have seen bloodwork after use and it is almost back to normal. Now, I have also seen bloodwork without it and seen liver values of almost 300 on Epi!!! SD and others are even harsher. It does make a difference. Now, the liver can repair itself over time after a cycle is stopped, but why keep enzymes elevated longer than necessary and risk your health?
There is not alot of science to back these things up yet, but they look promising to helping in oral cycles. And IMO, anything you can do to help your health is worth it.

 

[zombul]

If you have taken SD then I can't recomend MDrol. I have been trying to gather info on SUS500 it seems to be producing awesome results. Look into that one as a next step. If your doing SD again I see no problems with 30mg a day and would actually recomend it that way. Here is some good SD products. Fast Action SDROL 60tabs (Superdrol Clone)
CEL M-Drol - Superdrol clone, 90 caps, 10 mg per cap
And SUS500 if interested
G.E.T. SUS-500 60 SOFTGELS

 

[workingatit43]

I believe that hawthorne berry does help with blood pressure which can be a problem with these orals.