I'm not sure there's an official written "rule" as to how you do your cycle or how much dose to take. Is this all based on personal opinions or what you heard from someone else as well? My opinion has been take the lowest dose possible, until I came to these types of forums and found that many people take different amount of dose based on weight/height.
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are your cycles/dosages simply based on personal experience/tolerance?
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It depends on weight, height, previous cycle experience, compound, lifting experience, diet and tolerance to side effects.
Some people like Kevin Levrone can take a moderate amount of AAS + GH + Slin and grow huge, despite being in the 190's in the offseason. Others have to take a boatload of juice year round to maintain size or to gain more size (especially if they're past their genetic limit). I imagine Cutler who is well beyond his genetic limit is just geared to the teeth, but who knows.
You'll notice that the more you cycle, the higher amount of AAS you'll need. You might make great gains at 500mg test + 50mg dbol in one cycle, but feel it's lack luster your next go. Also, some people get great mileage out of certain drugs/combinations at relatively mild dosages. Others need much higher doses to get any effects at all. For example, I remember useatlittle saying he took off on just low dosages of AAS and judging by his lifts in the big 3, i'd consider him one of the fortunate ones.
I personally do not respond fantastically to AAS strength wise, but size wise, am a big responder. I gained noticeable size on my delts/traps/bis/tris that has left me unable to fit into certain clothing I once fit comfortably. However, my big three DL/squat/bp didn't go up hugely, but there was definitely improvement 535/435/265 to 565/455/295. I guess if you train for size, you'll get that size, and if you train for strength, you'll get the strength. So best to specialize. I don't see how stan efferding and jonnie jackson do both, but it's obviously working.
Some people like Kevin Levrone can take a moderate amount of AAS + GH + Slin and grow huge, despite being in the 190's in the offseason. Others have to take a boatload of juice year round to maintain size or to gain more size (especially if they're past their genetic limit). I imagine Cutler who is well beyond his genetic limit is just geared to the teeth, but who knows.
You'll notice that the more you cycle, the higher amount of AAS you'll need. You might make great gains at 500mg test + 50mg dbol in one cycle, but feel it's lack luster your next go. Also, some people get great mileage out of certain drugs/combinations at relatively mild dosages. Others need much higher doses to get any effects at all. For example, I remember useatlittle saying he took off on just low dosages of AAS and judging by his lifts in the big 3, i'd consider him one of the fortunate ones.
I personally do not respond fantastically to AAS strength wise, but size wise, am a big responder. I gained noticeable size on my delts/traps/bis/tris that has left me unable to fit into certain clothing I once fit comfortably. However, my big three DL/squat/bp didn't go up hugely, but there was definitely improvement 535/435/265 to 565/455/295. I guess if you train for size, you'll get that size, and if you train for strength, you'll get the strength. So best to specialize. I don't see how stan efferding and jonnie jackson do both, but it's obviously working.
I can relate to pieguy, strength goes up but not like some people. But I gain more size than most and fit into the group that looks stronger than they are. Btw what's with the screen name op?
I'm one of those ass holes that can take a little and get alot. When I take dbol I seem to get just as much out of 20mg as 50mg, same goes with everything else I've tried. Also don't get much as far as sides go, for instance I sleep like a baby on tren, do not get night sweats, but it rapes my cardio, thats about it. Just an example.
I honestly expected a correlation between side effects and gain out of a cycle. Like if you had harsher sides, you probably gained more. But after reading what you wrote, I officially hate you Deity 
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I get little strength on tren but almost no sides either. Great recomp effects though and heavy perspiration during the day, but that's about it.
.I get little strength on tren but almost no sides either. Great recomp effects though and heavy perspiration during the day, but that's about it.
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like some of the bros have said, it all depends on how your body reacts to the hormones your taking. Some ppl do better withcertain products than others. Key in ganing size and strength is knowing your body, and tha comes with exp.
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this^^^ You can learn a lot through research and other peoples experiences but in the end we are all individuals and it will take some experimentation to find what your body prospers under the best. I start low with everything just to be on the safe side.
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It also depends on the quality of gear you're getting. If you think these UGL's kick out consistent batches with equal and exact Mgs in every batch in accordance to the label, you would be wrong. Another thing, don't trust any UGL to make seperate batches of 250mg test, 300 test and 400 test vs making a batch of 250 and relabeling 3 or 4 different ways.
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