Calling for Testers for LeptiGen Mass??? and Rebirth???

[Twin Peak]

They are almost here, LeptiGen Mass??? and LeptiGen Rebirth???.

As such, I am looking for testers. I expect that I'd like to see two testers for Mass??? and 1 for Rebirth???. Please see this thread:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28370

And read the product write-ups on www.avantlabs.com.

What am I looking for?

LeptiGen Mass???

* Someone who is an experience dieter, and knows there maintenance level calories.
* Someone who is bulking, and will do so at caloric levels slightly (2-300) above maintenance for around four weeks.
* An experienced lifter who doesn't plan on changing their routine.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback.


LeptiGen Rebirth???

* Someone who is a true endomorph, has had a history of being very overfat, and is currently at a relatively high bodyfat level. 20% would be the very minimum.
* Someone who is trying to get down to under 20% BF, but has sufficient experience with diet such that s/he can establish his own.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback for about 6 weeks.


Note: I may ask the testers to stack either of these with another new Avant Labs Product, SesaThin??? as these will be very potent stacks.

Please apply for tester candidacy HERE. I will NOT respond to PMs or emails on this topic. Please tell me why you'd be an ideal candidate. Failure to provide sufficient information (AGAIN HERE) will disqualify you. If we get lots of good applications and I am in a good mood , we might take an extra tester or two.

Also, please note that we are NOT calling for testers of LeptiGen Basic???, but next week we will be calling for testers for our new oral fat burner. My plan is that we would decide by early next week, and the testing would begin the Monday thereafter, though Rebirth??? testing may be a week behind the other.

 

[Eggs]

I'd like to be the first to apply for that TP.

I believe I fit those qualifications. I'm bulking right now, and eating above maintennance calories. As well as I've been in the weight lifting realm for several years now and have a good bit of experience.

I've read a good bit about Leptigen and its 3 derivitives, and I would truly enjoy testing them for you.

 

[BabsieGirl]

I'm going to apply for rebirth however I'll have a write up by 1pm today.

 

[JLB001]

Me me me me me me me..please. for the rebirth one.....I would love to see what it does to the legs!

 

[Twin Peak]

Great. Not to be a jerk Babs, but please address how your surgery will or will not affect testing.

 

[Twin Peak]

JLB -- please (1) read the product description on our site (not sure how you expect it to "affect the legs" -- sound like you are thinking of LipoDerm-Y??? and LipoDerm-Ultra??? for which we have tons of great user feedback). And if you still want to apply, please provide some history and background as I asked for above.

 

[Eggs]

Okay, I'll give you more of a write up in just a minute TP

 

[Eggs]

Name: Justin
Age: 24
Height: 69"
Weight: 185

Most recent pics: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/gallery/showgallery.php?ppuser=1360&cat=500

I've been interested in Leptigen Mass since Jenny told me about leptigen originally and I read up on it. I think that it could be an invaluable tool for my bulk to not only make great progress with lean muscle mass gain, but to also keep body fat at a minimum.

I am currently using GPs P/RR/S workout plans, ableit slightly modified.

 

[BabsieGirl]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Great. Not to be a jerk Babs, but please address how your surgery will or will not affect testing.

I will do that sugar and, you're not being a jerk! I'll double check with my doctor.

I've been released to start weight training again however, I'm going to start out by proper diet and light cardio for the first week to see how that goes. The second week I'll start my weight training, etc. The weight training I'll be doing is not to put on size, rather tone to help with the melt down process.

Since this is a 6 weeks test, this will not affect my surgery as I'll be on Lupron Depot 3.75 until June or Aug. I can tell you since playing around with hormone pills for my Endo I've packed on 30-40 lbs and it's not coming off easy. I'm at 180lbs & over 20% b/f. Maybe Rebirth will help me and, I can show other women who are going through exactly what I'm going through, that there is still hope! As embarrassing as my photos will look, I'm willing to sacrifice the ego and jump on the wagon to success. I'm sick and tired of being over weight!

What ever decision you make, will be understood

Krystie aka: BabsieGirl
Age: 26
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 180
BF: over or at 20%

If I'm selected, photos, actual measurements, diet & training will be taken and posted from start of testing.

 

[JLB001]

Alrighty..history:

As of two weeks ago, bodyfat was 24.5% currently dieting down for a natural bbing show June 12th. My goal is to be about 5% by that date with body weight around 120. Current diet is very clean. I do have a person that we work with in regards to my diet and training, bodyfat is tested every two weeks and diet is adjusted accordingly. What is getting me is wanting to eat before my next planned meals etc. I tend to store all my excess fat in my lower body. I can find my before dieting pics in my journal if you like. I'm very anal and can keep a journal to a T and provide any feed back needed. I have used LipoDerm-Y??? and it seems to work well.

What other info would you need?

 

[Pepper]

Originally posted by Twin Peak

LeptiGen Rebirth???

* Someone who is a true endomorph, has had a history of being very overfat, and is currently at a relatively high bodyfat level. 20% would be the very minimum.
* Someone who is trying to get down to under 20% BF, but has sufficient experience with diet such that s/he can establish his own.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback for about 6 weeks.

OK, Pepper applies for Rebirth.

As of this AM on the Tanita (sp?) scales, I am 288 lbs with BF % of 25%. I started at 340 lbs last February and my WEIGHT loss has stalled dramatically. I still think I am losing BF but have become a little frustrated b/c the diet is clean. I am at a BF level that I have been at most of my life, I have NEVER been "thin" since grade school but never been "fat" (read: obese) until a couple of years ago.

My BF goals are way under 20%.

I have been on the "diet" so long that it is not a diet. I used to journal but it became so repetitive that I quit. I have not problems journaling and I take photos once a month...some of those are in my gallery. I have not taken measurments in a while but would have no problem doing so regularly.

I do not know whether I am a an endomorph or not. Perhaps my description and photo will allow you to make that call. I am 37 years old. I lift four days a week and do moderate cardio twice a week. I play basketball one night a week which I consider more than moderate cardio, but some might take issue with that

 

[Twin Peak]

Pepper, two questions:

1) You have used LeptiGen??? before correct? When did you stop?

2) When did you become a mod? Congrats.

JBL and Babs, it sounds to me like you two are more ideal candidates for LeptiGen Basic??? or the original LeptiGen???, which, unfortunately, we are not taking testers for.

JBL, if your thighs are the problem and you liked Lipo-Y you will love LipoDerm-Ultra???.

 

[JLB001]

Babsie....he doesn't love us. hehe

 

[Pepper]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Pepper, two questions:

1) You have used LeptiGen??? before correct? When did you stop?

2) When did you become a mod? Congrats.

Actually, I still have Leptigen and have been taking just a tablespoon a day for the last few months.

I became a sports mod a couple of months ago. That is one topic I can talk semi-intelligently about

 

[zenith]

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i would be happy to test LeptiGen Mass??? out for you, im 5ft 9 19 years old and ive body build for 3 years.

I do a 3 soemtimes 4 day split routine. i have 4 protien shakes a day and 4 meals my caloric intake is about 3600 give or take a few everyday.

if you wanted me to test i would post somewhere or write up on its everyday effects.

 

[Twin Peak]

Cool. Pepper is in. If we have one more qualified Endo by monday, I'll take another.

 

[JLB001]

woohoo Pepper!!!

 

[Rocco32]

When are you looking to do this trial TP? I'm interested in Leptigen Mass after my Comp on May 1. Is that too late? If so, maybe Leptigen Rebirth would be good for me right now. Currently I am using Leptigen Basic. Let me know the time period and then I'll give a write up!

 

[Twin Peak]

Rock, you mean you are using LeptiGen the original -- Basic hasn't been released yet. For you, Rebirth wouldn't be appropriate.

May 1 is too far away, sorry. Maybe next time. We have lots of new and exciting (read unique) products coming out over the next few months.

 

[BabsieGirl]

Originally posted by JLB001
Babsie....he doesn't love us. hehe

, it's true.......we get no love...... WE'VE BEEN REJECTED!!!


j/k.....your comment was funny hon.

It's all good darlin. I'm planning on taking my disgusting fatty pictures and posting them next week along with a diet program I tend to use for 6 weeks straight..........I'll post....then RUNNNN and hide......

 

[zakk]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
They are almost here, LeptiGen Mass??? and LeptiGen Rebirth???.

As such, I am looking for testers. I expect that I'd like to see two testers for Mass??? and 1 for Rebirth???...

LeptiGen Rebirth???

* Someone who is a true endomorph, has had a history of being very overfat, and is currently at a relatively high bodyfat level. 20% would be the very minimum.
* Someone who is trying to get down to under 20% BF, but has sufficient experience with diet such that s/he can establish his own.
* Someone who is good at keeping a journal, and will provide before and after measurements and pictures, and weekly measurement updates and subjective feedback for about 6 weeks.

name: zakk
age: 25
height: 5' 9"
weight: 258 lbs.
BF%: 25% (Hydrostatic BF test on 2/9/04)
LBM 197 lbs. (2/9/04)

Background:
Overly fat since I can remember. over 200 lbs. at age 12. never below 275 since age 18. Weight loss began on 7/20/03 after returning from a 'wheeling trip on the Rubicon. Saw video of myself and said "That's it". Diet began 7/21/03 with my first weigh in at 353 lbs. size 52 pants, shirt size 3X.

Today:
258 lbs. Size 40 pants, XL shirt. Triathlete in training, with two more events on the horizon (one on Saturday ) Diet and training focus on overall health and fitness.

Workout:
5-6x a week I do AM cardio. Mainly consists of brick Triathlon training (e.g. this morning was a 1000 yd swim with practice transition to bike). PM workouts 3x a week for weight training. Two day split with Back, Bis, Legs on day 1 and Chest, Shoulders, Tris on day 2. Focus on weight with moderate reps (4-8). Last set to failure, got a great workout partner/cook/girlfriend (props to Rita). Abs done on non-lift days at the end of AM cardio.

Current diet is moderate carbs, high protein and low fat. Chicken and egg whites are staple foods.

Current supplements: Whey, glutamine, multi-vitamin, fish oils, Vitamin E & C, calcium supplement with Vitamin D.

Current measurements can be provided. Excel sheet at home (I'm at work). Photos can be taken. Currently have 1 from 20 lbs. ago or so.

 

[Monolith]

I'll apply for rebirth, too... not much of a shot, but i cant ignore the prospect of free LG.

Age: 20
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 240lbs
Max Weight: ~300lbs @ 16/17yrs.
Lowest Weight: 198lbs @ 19yrs.

Fat all my life. About 2.5 years ago i dropped into severe caloric defecit to drop some weight. Got down to ~250. Went backpacking for 4 months, lost another 25lbs. Came back, began educating myself, dropped down to 198lbs (~12 months ago). Still fat, had no trained muscle. No definition.

Stopped extreme diet, since i was trying to 'cut' nonexistent muscle. Began a newbie 'bulk', which was more or less me eating a bunch of garbage (was in NY for school, no kitchen for meals). Over the summer, got up to about ~248lbs, most of it fat.

For the past 3 months, since the beginning of 2004, i've been carb cycling (nothing but chicken and brown rice, dammit) in an attempt to finally do this right. Bodyweight has dropped ~8lbs, to 240, which is actually ideal... as my goal has been body recomp. Clothes fit much better, and im noticably leaner (although lean has a very relative definition when used to describe my body). Weights have been slowly inreasing.

I've never kept a log of body measurements, or had my bf% checked. Although in my next order from mike i was gonna pick up some calipers...

I'm also gonna be out of town/away from a computer next week, if it makes any difference.

Edit: Oh yeah, ive got a journal here:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25150

Was initially to get my CC diet dialed in, but since ive finally got it down, it turned into more of a training/supplement log.

 

[Rocco32]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Rock, you mean you are using LeptiGen the original -- Basic hasn't been released yet. For you, Rebirth wouldn't be appropriate.

May 1 is too far away, sorry. Maybe next time. We have lots of new and exciting (read unique) products coming out over the next few months.

Cool! I'll definately try Lepti Mass after my Comp! Thanks buddy!

 

[ddouble]

Interested in submitting to Leptigen Mass trial.

Age : 31
Years Training: 5
Height: 5' 8"
Weight: 210
Arms: 18"
Thighs: 27.5"
Waist: 33"
BF%: approx. 12

I believe I am a ecto-meso type. I started out at 130 lbs and worked my way up to 215 in early 2003. Since then, I have been performing steady state recomposition. I have lost five pounds and picked up an inch on my arms and thighs.

I would like to use Mass to improve the rate at which I'm building lean mass. I'm at the stage where I find that getting more than 500 calories above maintenance starts to blur my definition. I like the fact that I'm becoming vascular and wish to continue down that path. I currently eat 300-400 calories above maintenance Mon - Fri. and at maintenance on the weekend.

I am currently training with the HST protocol.
I keep a training and nutrition log in Excel and would have no problem, taking tape measurements as needed.

I currently supplement with the following:
multi-vitamin
NAC and an anti-oxidant blend
creatine, taurine, TMG, IP6
fish oil and lecithin
whey and milk protein isolate

Feel free to ask any clarifying questions. Thanks for your consideration.

 

[Twin Peak]

Great candidates so far, keep em coming.

 

[JLB001]

Wow..I don't envy TP for having to pick which person. It would be soooooooooooo difficult!

Babsie...you'll get back down. I have faith in you!

 

[derekisdman]

Originally posted by JLB001
Alrighty..history:

As of two weeks ago, bodyfat was 24.5% currently dieting down for a natural bbing show June 12th. My goal is to be about 5% by that date with body weight around 120. Current diet is very clean. I do have a person that we work with in regards to my diet and training, bodyfat is tested every two weeks and diet is adjusted accordingly. What is getting me is wanting to eat before my next planned meals etc. I tend to store all my excess fat in my lower body. I can find my before dieting pics in my journal if you like. I'm very anal and can keep a journal to a T and provide any feed back needed. I have used LipoDerm-Y??? and it seems to work well.

What other info would you need?

I don't want to get off subject but is it possible for women to get to 5% without dying?

 

[instant]

I'm a small guy with some pretty good strength numbers and I definitly have a lot of room to grow. Have a great diet and have been working out for about 2 years. Highschool athelete and working on trying to get into some collegiate sports.

5'7
144
8.1%bf
20 years old

I spend massive time in the gym and wouldn't have any problem keep log or geting you digial pictures.


I am very interested in mass anyway so consideration would be great.

Please PM me for further info you need.

 

[JLB001]

I haven't died at 8.5%. LOL I don't want to stay that low forever...just a few days. My body is happy being plump. But I can't compete being plump.

 

[Monolith]

Hey, i just thought, Trailrix would probably be an ideal candidate for Rebirth if he's got the time for the log.