Clenbuterol

[MJ23]

I am a former member of muscle magazine, and this forum was strongly recommended.

I am trying to do a cycle of Sust/Dbol, 250mg a week, 25mg a day of dbol for about three weeks to kick start, I have more than enough of sust ( Nile)
but my body fat percentage is rather high, so I am currently in the gym 5 days a week, doing cardio.

I just purchased some Clen, and would like some advise on it
I have 50mcg tablets ( 100 total), so I was thinking

- Should I break the tablets in half, to build tolerance, I am looking at a maximum of 125mcg a day, for about 4 weeks, since thermogenic effects and the anabolic effects will start to wear down.

Please Advise

and please NO PM from any members with their mailing address, I like my EXTRA SUST, and will not provide any samples,

 

[david]

I won't advise here bc/ I'll leave it for the experts but I liked that last line bc/ I was going to be a smartass and ask if you could send me some!

But you beat me to it!

 

[MJ23]

No more opinions,

I mean I AM alittle worried, that I dont see a manufacturer with
50mcg in theri product line

 

[Scream'n]

Hey there. I don't have any history w/ clen but I have a book (Anabolic Primer) that says 50-100mcg are "gym" dosages with 120 being max. It also says 3 weeks is a normal "on" period taking 2 days on and two days off. I would be very careful considering possible side effects. The book says this as well as starting of w/ 10mcg/day to evaluate your tolerance and increasing only 10/day after that (not 50mcg). Again, you have a lot going on w/ sus and dbol, tread lightly!! Cardio works, I swear. Easy on the dope.

 

[ZECH]

without providing some basic info (age, weight, diet) One can hardly give good advice!

 

[Robboe]

50mcg?!

Is that superclen you have?

 

[Mifody]

is there a brand name or anything? i'd say start at 50mcg, sides shouldnt be that bad.. then depending on how you feel go up to 100. if you feel fine at 100 try 150.. dont bother going past 150 though. theres no need to taper up or down. people usually taper up their first time to see how they react to it. i tried the clen in the pump and just started at 125 the first day. no probs.
i guess you could break up the pills and go in increments of 25.. personally i wouldnt bother.

 

[MJ23]

Fellows, I am alittle worried
so 50mcg should not exist, and I needed it to drop the body fat down, so I can start my cycle of Sust, /dbol

 

[david]

Sus in my opinion (And I swore I wouldn't give it)

Just some tidbits and facts for those who are unaware of these AS.

From the book, "Anabolic Advantage, the Essentials of Anabloic Steroid use".

Sustanon

Positives:

-1st time user can gain from 15 to 30 lbs. by using no more than 1 ml per week for 8 to 10 weeks. Doese will need to increae over time.
-stacked will w/ pretty much anything
-strong orals like Anadrol or Dianabol are great for BULKING cycles.
- Deca, Winny & Primo work well also to gain mass.

Negative

Causes some water retention adn other androgenic side effects but far less degreee than any other testosterones.

Typical dosage: (250 mg per ml) 250 mg to 750 mg per week.

D'BOL

Positives

- 2nd to Anadrol in bulking up

Negatives

-Side affects. Agression, headaches, acne, gynomastia, hair loss, abnormally hi blood pressure and liver values.

Suggestions: Plan to use HCG and/or Clomid to get naturaltestosterone levels back to normal.

 

[MJ23]

hey, THANKS for the info,

but I am well-aware of SUSt/Dbol,

my concern is that I might have gotten ripped off on the clen deal

thats all

 

[david]

I put it there so other's could get an idea of Sus/Dbol and its adv. and disadv.

that clen tablet, it actually says that 50 mcg?

 

[david]

Hopefully you retained the box. Go to this website to check the validity. It may help.

http://www.clenbuterol.com/

 

[john992]

Try www.anabolex.com

 

[BUSTINOUT]

Is your source reliable? Sounds like it came from an underground lab. As for the dosages, I would break it up throughout the day, but do not take after about 4-5 p.m. That is if you like to sleep. lol. Work your way up from 50mgc/day for two days, and inrease it by 25mcg every two days. If you get jittery to the point where you cannot function well, back it down. Run it for two weeks on, and two weeks off. That two day on and two day off is worthless, because that is how long it takes to really get into your system and have any effect. Again, ask your source who the make of the clen is. Sounds like an underground product to me.

 

[david]

Amen to that. I knew BO would pop up sometime. Hey Bud!

 

[gopro]

I know of NO legit brands of clen that contain 50 mcg per tab. It could come from some underground lab like BUSTINOUT suggested. Clen is cheap and easy to come by...maybe you should get some from a "real" lab.

Anyway, I suggest a starting dose of 60 mcg per day...20 mcg 3 x per day. If you are going to use it for 4 weeks I would go to 80 mcg in week 2, than 100 in week 3 and 120 in week 4. Preferably I would then taper down for 1 more week.

 

[david]

GoPro,

Have you ever heard of Liquid form Clen?

 

[Training God]

Originally posted by gopro
I know of NO legit brands of clen that contain 50 mcg per tab. It could come from some underground lab like BUSTINOUT suggested. Clen is cheap and easy to come by...maybe you should get some from a "real" lab.

Anyway, I suggest a starting dose of 60 mcg per day...20 mcg 3 x per day. If you are going to use it for 4 weeks I would go to 80 mcg in week 2, than 100 in week 3 and 120 in week 4. Preferably I would then taper down for 1 more week.

*** I would not do this if you are going to be using your 50mcg tabs. You will overdose!!!
Tose are strong tabs and you need to be careful. Start with 20 mcg a day and slowly push it up each week or several days.
Do these tabs have ketfoin in them?

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by davidjasondean
GoPro,

Have you ever heard of Liquid form Clen?

Yes, there is a vetinary version called Ventipulmin.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by PowermanDL



*** I would not do this if you are going to be using your 50mcg tabs. You will overdose!!!
Tose are strong tabs and you need to be careful. Start with 20 mcg a day and slowly push it up each week or several days.
Do these tabs have ketfoin in them?

Obviously you did not read my post very carefully.

I said to start with 60 mcg per day...20 mcg 3 x per day...and to preferably noy use the 50 mcg tabs since there is no known legit forms of 50 mcg clen. For a guy there is no need to start with just 1 tab or 20 mcg per day. Maybe a girl, but not a guy.

 

[david]

bump! Inq. about Liquid clen by anyone!

 

[david]

I saw the response but do you think it's effective or is it at a disadv. to the tablets?

 

[Training God]

Originally posted by gopro


Obviously you did not read my post very carefully.

I said to start with 60 mcg per day...20 mcg 3 x per day...and to preferably noy use the 50 mcg tabs since there is no known legit forms of 50 mcg clen. For a guy there is no need to start with just 1 tab or 20 mcg per day. Maybe a girl, but not a guy.

*** No disrespect but you are not familiar with it since you are saying that you haven't heard of it. That being said, I will say again that if you are using this brand do not start out with 50 mcg a day. This is a brand that is sold by some reputable dealers and it is very potent. Just be careful. I have experinec with this brand. I am familiar with it, so heed my advice. Btw, what is "legit" when it comes to steroids. That's an oxymoron isn't it?

 

[Training God]

Usually the liquid clen isn't as potent as the tabs.
Liquid is cheaper though and you can get quite a bit more than if you just bought tabs.
There's also a new injectable clen that is suppose to be great for spot reduction.
It's also fairly inexpensive.

 

[david]

thnx powerman! I will contact my *friend*

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by PowermanDL


*** No disrespect but you are not familiar with it since you are saying that you haven't heard of it. That being said, I will say again that if you are using this brand do not start out with 50 mcg a day. This is a brand that is sold by some reputable dealers and it is very potent. Just be careful. I have experinec with this brand. I am familiar with it, so heed my advice. Btw, what is "legit" when it comes to steroids. That's an oxymoron isn't it?

This is a brand NOT MADE BY REPUTABLE pharmacuetical companies, but "underground" labs. Yes, they may have 50 mcg of clen in each tab, but that DOES not make it more powerful than 2 1/2 tabs of Spiropent or Novegam. If he has a real version of the 50 mcg tabs I would then suggest he cut it in half and take one half early in the day and the second at least 5 hours later.

And legit means that the drug has in it what it is supposed to contain...no more no less.

 

[Training God]

Originally posted by gopro


This is a brand NOT MADE BY REPUTABLE pharmacuetical companies, but "underground" labs. Yes, they may have 50 mcg of clen in each tab, but that DOES not make it more powerful than 2 1/2 tabs of Spiropent or Novegam. If he has a real version of the 50 mcg tabs I would then suggest he cut it in half and take one half early in the day and the second at least 5 hours later.

And legit means that the drug has in it what it is supposed to contain...no more no less.

*** Unless you're speaking terms with your dealer ( or he/she is a wellknown dealer) or you get it direct from the company we don't know what any kind of drug is. Regardless of it's lable.
On paper it doesn't dosage wise, but according to those I've talked to and have read on various boards they've said that it is a lot more potent.
That's all. No need to get in a huff big guy. You're still the expert around these parts. I was just giving my two pennies.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by PowermanDL


*** Unless you're speaking terms with your dealer ( or he/she is a wellknown dealer) or you get it direct from the company we don't know what any kind of drug is. Regardless of it's lable.
On paper it doesn't dosage wise, but according to those I've talked to and have read on various boards they've said that it is a lot more potent.
That's all. No need to get in a huff big guy. You're still the expert around these parts. I was just giving my two pennies.

Who's in a huff...not I. You'd know if I were in a huff!

Yes, of course we do not know for sure if a drug is real or not unless we have it tested by a lab, although there are certain relatively reliable indicators that can give us a good idea whether a drug is real or not. Of course, things change all the time and counterfeiters get more savvy all the time so you must keep up with the "trends."

I have spoken with a few guys that I have coached in contest prep about the 50 mcg clen...a few felt it was more potent, while others felt it was the same. There are a few "superclens" floating around that also contain T3...those will certainily be more potent than regular clen.

 

[jim]

GP given the Clenbuterol/T3 stack, what are the repurcussions comming off the stack. Assume the 2 days on 2 days off for 4 weeks scenario. I heard that there may be significant water retention once done with the stack.

I want to lose the weight, and keep it off.

thanks

 

[david]

I have heard some bad stuff with that combo. But I'm sure Go pro or BO etc. will care to comment further on this!