David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez tested positive in 2003

[I Are Baboon]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html

I am shocked, I tell ya.

 

[tucker01]

No big surprise.

 

[IronAddict]

Yeah, but what do we expect! The FDA says, we should never ever take nutritional supplements.

 

[Triple Threat]

So those World Series titles in 2004 and 2007 are tainted?

 

[I Are Baboon]

So those World Series titles in 2004 and 2007 are tainted?

No more so than the 03 Yankees.

 

[P-funk]

No big surprise. Man, Ortiz has not been great at all this year.

The only player I believe in anymore is Len "nails" Dyskstra. He was totally clean.

patrick

 

[largepkg]

No big surprise. Man, Ortiz has not been great at all this year.

The only player I believe in anymore is Len "nails" Dyskstra. He was totally clean.

patrick

Nails is pathological P. You see the two HBO specials they had with him? Dude is certifiable.

 

[P-funk]

Nails is pathological P. You see the two HBO specials they had with him? Dude is certifiable.

Yea, they were on youtube. Awesomeness!

YouTube Video

 

[largepkg]

Yea, they were on youtube. Awesomeness!

YouTube Video

That's part 1. You see part 2? That's where you see him crash and burn.

 

[P-funk]

That's part 1. You see part 2? That's where you see him crash and burn.

I've seen it before. It used to be on youtube but I can't find it for some reason? Maybe HBO took it down?

He is totally bankrupt now I believe.

patrick

 

[min0 lee]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html

I am shocked, I tell ya.

Old news,I broke this news weeks ago.

No more so than the 03 Yankees.

27 minus 1...I can deal with that.

 

[I Are Baboon]

At least the Red Sox win championships when they juice.

 

[min0 lee]

Ha!

It is amazing how low their numbers are now.
They say that before Ortiz took steroids he wasn't such a power hitter. Let me check.

 

[tucker01]

before 2003 he hit like 17 and 21 Hrs.

 

[min0 lee]

Like other players their numbers have declined.

I know you say players used uppers years ago but steroids are at a different level.

 

[tucker01]

I agree.

But it is cheating none the less, according to today's standards.

 

[min0 lee]

I wonder how Sox will take this one..he's still reeling from the news that Dice-K tested positive for Vagisil.

 

[tucker01]

I wonder how Sox will take this one..he's still reeling from the news that Dice-K tested positive for Vagisil.

haha

 

[min0 lee]

I agree.

But it is cheating none the less, according to today's standards.

True, it really disappointed me when I heard Willie Mays mixed it with his coffee.

 

[tucker01]

Here you go mino. Sox on Ortiz

I don't know.

He's a big boy naturally and his arms are so damn little that I find it hard to believe.

Plus, his quotes when the story first began a couple of years ago.

I just don't see it, but I definitely could be wrong on this one.

 

[min0 lee]

Here you go mino. Sox on Ortiz

Most people think that you become Arnold the moment you touch steroids but these players now know that certain steroids affect your differently.....not that I really know much about it, I would also have though the same about Ortiz.
I like Ortiz as player, hopefully he can bounce back and at least be close to the numbers he put up in past years.

Here's his quote.

”I think you clean up the game by the testing. I know that if I test positive by using any kind of substance, I know that I’m going to disrespect my family, the game, the fans and everybody, and I don’t want to be facing that situation. “So what would I do? I won’t use it, and I’m pretty sure that everybody is on the same page,”

 

[I Are Baboon]

soxmuscle...where is that homo?

 

[P-funk]

LOL....I like how Nomar is now stating that some guys chose not to take the test and said to put them down as "positive" so that it would elevate the numbers and force baseball to institute a testing policy....Riiiiiiight. Sounds like a guy who is trying to cover his tracks to me.

patrick

 

[tucker01]

58 hrs prior to 2003 in 6 seasons

244 hrs since 2003

Obviously the steroid testing isn't working too well.

 

[P-funk]

58 hrs prior to 2003 in 6 seasons

244 hrs since 2003

Obviously the steroid testing isn't working too well.

Whose stat is that? Nomar's?

 

[tucker01]

Big Papi

 

[P-funk]

Big Papi

He only had 53 home runs in 6-seasons? WOW, I would have never guessed that stat. I guess he just sort of popped on the scene in 2003 as this big home run hitter who would come in and save the day with walk-off home runs and I never realized what he was doing prior to that, so i just accepted that he was quietly hitting a ton of home runs and no one really talked about it. Guess I was wrong.

patrick

 

[tucker01]

He only had 53 home runs in 6-seasons? WOW, I would have never guessed that stat. I guess he just sort of popped on the scene in 2003 as this big home run hitter who would come in and save the day with walk-off home runs and I never realized what he was doing prior to that, so i just accepted that he was quietly hitting a ton of home runs and no one really talked about it. Guess I was wrong.

patrick

In fairness, he didn't play a lot of games with minny. But was hitting a tater on average ever 26 At bats.

Now in his career with boston, he has been hitting a tater every 14 at bats.

 

[P-funk]

Now in his career with boston, he has been hitting a tater every 14 at bats.

Not this season though. I wonder what happened to him?

patrick

 

[tucker01]

His steroid supplier Manny left.

He just found another supplier recently