do NOT want to come off, input appreciated

[ManInBlack]

Ok brothers, I need some input here...

Here's the deal. I am about 10.5 weeks into a test E cycle. I have been running 600mg's a week...I am the leanest I've ever been in my life. That is mainly due to my diet that I have kept VERY clean with the exception of 2 cheat meals a week...I am the strongest I've ever been while being the leanest I've ever been..I am also using Formeron which is fucking killing my wallet but the shit is amazing...Anyway, summer is coming up and I am looking beastly right now. Everyone has something to say about the way I am looking and I must admit, Im looking and feeling GOOD. I really do NOT want to come off. Originally I wanted to run this cycle for 10-12 weeks but now I am thinking about staying on throughout the summer and possibly upping the dose to 750...I have ran a few previous cycles and my PCT's were always clomid and arimidex but this time around I was thinking of using Clomid alongside Formeron...I have also been running HCG throughout the cyle at 500ius a week so I may up that when I up the test dose...What do you guys think??? I am trying to decide how grueling of a PCT would be necessary after such a long cycle and how long it would take me to recover. Any input would be appreciated.

 

[jay_steel]

just cruise get bl done at 4 weeks out see how you are and blast again at 5 weeks. I plan on going right in to a bulk cycle 6 weeks after my contest prep. I just plan on getting BL done right after my cycle, see what needs work... Donate blood, Get bl done again then blast.

 

[dieseljimmy]

just cruise get bl done at 4 weeks out see how you are and blast again at 5 weeks. I plan on going right in to a bulk cycle 6 weeks after my contest prep. I just plan on getting BL done right after my cycle, see what needs work... Donate blood, Get bl done again then blast.

yeah what he said.

 

[Standard Donkey]

have your doc keep an eye on your blood pressure, and as DJ said.. get blood work, including a cbc with differential to check hematocrit and a metabolic panel to check homocysteine and trig's(metabolic panel has to be fasted)


cholesterol isn't THAT important imo..


you may also want an ultrasound on your liver to check for adenomas




and an EKG to check for LVH (or just be sure to keep your bp in optimal range)

 

[jay_steel]

ive noticed with lipids as long as i eat fine and do a small amount of cardio they stay fine and have no issues. I am more worried about hematocrit then any thing.

 

[ManInBlack]

Thanks for the replies...I realize blood work is important so I will continue to do that obviously...What do you guys think about adding in some tren ace for these last 8 weeks or so on this cycle?

 

[jay_steel]

you will be fine.

 

[dieseljimmy]

My biggest recommendation for long cycles or the blast and cruisers is to give blood like jay said.

 

[jay_steel]

just dont ever give blood during contest prep lol. A good friend of mine did that and couldnt get his sugar back up due to prep and started to seizer. I plan on doing it every chance i get i think its 8-10 weeks. Not risking a heart attack...

 

[Standard Donkey]

dont give blood unless you need to or you can become anemic

 

[jay_steel]

hey SD off topic but what Insulin are you running? I am looking at h-log... what type of protocol are you running? I was thinking of going for 15iu PWO with a huge carb meal an hour after due to log being slower the humalin... and also 10iu hgh PWO...

 

[tinyshrek]

dont give blood unless you need to or you can become anemic

Roflmao

 

[the_predator]

Approaching the end of a 6 month cycle myself, have only had to donate blood once so far. May donate one more time for go measure. Had same issues as you...feeling great, looking good, strong as an ox. I didn't want to come off so I didn't. I will finish this off then cruise for six months(to complete a year) and then go the opposite way. Short controlled bursts! Just a bunch of 4-6 week blasts to see how that works for me. So I guess what I'm saying is, go for it.

 

[JCBourne]

just cruise get bl done at 4 weeks out see how you are and blast again at 5 weeks. I plan on going right in to a bulk cycle 6 weeks after my contest prep. I just plan on getting BL done right after my cycle, see what needs work... Donate blood, Get bl done again then blast.

Jay I respect you, but horrible advice, if you believe what you said you don't know much man. OP cycles at 500mg (may even bump to 750mg) and then you say cruise 4 weeks and test? His lab work isn't going to come back at a "cruising" dose.

OP you want to increase to 750mg after 10-12 weeks? Any HCG?

 

[Standard Donkey]

Jay I respect you, but horrible advice, if you believe what you said you don't know much man. OP cycles at 500mg (may even bump to 750mg) and then you say cruise 4 weeks and test? His lab work isn't going to come back at a "cruising" dose.

OP you want to increase to 750mg after 10-12 weeks? Any HCG?

lmao..

 

[Standard Donkey]

Roflmao

Op could be elderly we have no clue regarding his age

 

[Standard Donkey]

hey SD off topic but what Insulin are you running? I am looking at h-log... what type of protocol are you running? I was thinking of going for 15iu PWO with a huge carb meal an hour after due to log being slower the humalin... and also 10iu hgh PWO...

i used humalog, it's faster than humalin R (it kicks in really fast)

i did 10iu pre-workout with 80g carbs from karboload and 30g whey/casein hydro blend sipped during workout with creatine and some other goodies. 1 hour after shake is done 40g carbs from white rice and 8oz white meat


45 minutes before i had half a cup of oatmeal with 1 tbsp coconut oil and 45g protein from whey


i also tried mike arnold's protocol which was also fun (15iu shot pre-workout and 10iu peri-workout. both shots intramuscular). you can find that protocol via google.

 

[ManInBlack]

Thanks for the replies.. I am almost 26 by the way.

Yeah I have HCG and Ive been using 500iu's a week since day one.

I got blood work done around week 7 or so and my test levels were like 2700 and my estradiol was 64 or something like that. I have a new question for you guys. I know that isn't crazy high of an E2 level but is it high enough to cause ED issues? I have had a huge problem getting it up lately and its REALLY fucking with my sex life.

 

[jay_steel]

Jay I respect you, but horrible advice, if you believe what you said you don't know much man. OP cycles at 500mg (may even bump to 750mg) and then you say cruise 4 weeks and test? His lab work isn't going to come back at a "cruising" dose.

OP you want to increase to 750mg after 10-12 weeks? Any HCG?

if he doesnt plan on coming off what does it matter what his test levels are? Just make sure liver values, hematocrit, and ect.

 

[jay_steel]

i used humalog, it's faster than humalin R (it kicks in really fast)

i did 10iu pre-workout with 80g carbs from karboload and 30g whey/casein hydro blend sipped during workout with creatine and some other goodies. 1 hour after shake is done 40g carbs from white rice and 8oz white meat


45 minutes before i had half a cup of oatmeal with 1 tbsp coconut oil and 45g protein from whey


i also tried mike arnold's protocol which was also fun (15iu shot pre-workout and 10iu peri-workout. both shots intramuscular). you can find that protocol via google.

yeah i read mikes protocol, can you PM me were you get your hemalog... Just because i would rather have the faster stuff, but its also so easy to get it at wall mart.