Does the ester really matter? Propionate, Cypionate, Enanthate, Decanoate?

[malfeasance]

My question is not as simple as it sounds. Of course it matters for the timing of release. That is not my question. Does it matter for anything else? I see claims of less water retention with shorter esters. Why would this be? Testosterone propionate is testosterone. Testosterone Cypionate is testosterone. The ester does not cause water retention. It just binds the testosterone, in this case for a shorter time with the propionate than the cypionate, before the body hydrolizes the ester, releasing the testosterone.

Other than the release time (and therefore the half life), does the ester really matter?

The REAL reason I am asking this is because I hate what we call "Deca" due to the terrible recovery period. Deca is short for decanoate, and we use this slang terminology for Deca Durabolin, or Nandrolone Decanoate, which is just Nandrolone tied to a really long ester. This long ester is what causes the terribly lengthy recovery. It just takes forever to get this form of Nandrolone out of one's system so that the suppressive effects disappear and recovery can begin, resulting in a very unhappy wife.

I have a shoulder injury incurred during bench pressing almost two years ago. It does not require surgery, according to the orthopaedic surgeon, but it leaves me in pain when working out, any pressing movement, for days afterward, and even squats because of the position of the arm to hold the barbell (it literally hurts more than my legs, which is very distracting).

"Deca" made the pain practically disappear! It was like magic. The recovery, however, was terrible, to the extent that I swore it off forever, unless I go on TRT one day.

Can I get the same miraculous effect on my shoulder from a shorter ester, Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, which is Nandralone, like what we call "Deca," but with a shorter ester (although it is longer than Propianate, but shorter than Cypionate or Enanthate)?

Is it the Nandrolone that causes the pain to disappear?

If so, then the ester should not matter, right?

Or is it the ester?

If that is the case, can I take Testosterone Decanoate for the same effect?

If you have a nagging and acute pain in a joint that Deca temporarily cured, have you tried NPP, and did it also work just as well?

 

[crab107]

I know im a noob dude but I read in anabolics 10th edition that "nandrolone decanoate is a modified form of nandrolone where a carboxylic acid ester has been attached to the 17 beta hydrxyl group...ONCE IN THE BLOODSTREAM THE ESTER IS REMOVED TO YEILD FREE ACTIVE NANDROLONE...esterfied steroids are designed to prolong the therapeutic effect following administration, allowing for less frequent injections" (William Llewellyns Anabolics 10th ed pg 205).
If the ester is removed I don't see how it would matter which form of ester is used. Nandrolone is nandrolone, i dont see how an ester could have any therapeutic effect.

 

[jay_steel]

I beleive it has allot to do with how much test you are running. If the half life of test e is 2 weeks. (just throwing a figure out there) So you inject 250 on monday and 250 on thurday so now your at 500 for the week. On your next monday injection you will not be back at zero but close to around 500 still and you inject another 250. The test will start to dwindle down and spike back up until you reach that nice point where it should be smooth for example around the 3rd week you should have it nice and level where you are going to start feeling it the best and its going to stay smooth.

Where as you shoot test p 100 eod the half life is much faster so your overal test levels are much lower.

I maybe competly off on this, but I honestly do not no a huge difference in my body when I run 150 test every 4 days vice 100 test p eod or 150 test p eod. Except of course the test p kicks in harder, but for water I know many pros that stick to longer esthers just for the fact they are all ready pinning a shit ton of stuff.