First dmz 3.0 cycle. Pct okay?

[Goingham]

Okay So I've run a couple ph cycles in the past and the information on here has helped me a lot. First cycle was halo extreme 50,50,75,100,100 second was halo again but at starting at 75 and upping to 100 second week and on. Both times I used the 8 week cycle pack from the website along with recommended nolva.


Being that super Dmz 3.0 is my strongest ph cycle I'd like to make sure I'm covered during pct BEFORE I start. Here are my details.

Weeks 1-4
Super dmz 3.0 one cap morn, 1 cap night
On cycle support for kidneys and liver will be takin during cycle and during all of the pct.

Pct! Weeks 5-8
Daa 3g
Pes erase 1 cap daily
nolva 30/30/20/10

Pct weeks 7-10 (start taking tested nutrition last week of nolva)
Daa 3g
Tested nutrition anti e and test booster

My thought is that taking an anti e and test booster at the end along with Daa (another booster) Will prevent any possibility of delayed onset gyno. Should I have additional nolva or something else on hand as an emergency back up for gyno.


Additional notes:
I used the tn anti e/test booster during my first 2 runs with halo and liked it.

I have never had problems with gyno, better safe then sorry. I want to do this right.

Do I have everything covered, am I going overboard on natural boosters, should I have something on hand in case of delayed onset gyno, am I too paranoid?

Thanks.

 

[Goingham]

If I've broken any rules for posting source info let me know and I'll correct the issue.

 

[Mike Arnold]

You are spreading yourself too thin. 10 mg Nolva? When doing a PCT, you want to hit it hard and fast right from the start---not draw it out with sub-par dosages and drug combinations.

There is no need to taper down your Nolva dose. 40 mg/day is ideal, but if you don't have enough to use 40 mg, then use as much as you can. 20 mg is the bare minimum, although when Nolva is your only SERM, most will use 30-40 mg daily. 10 mg daily is too low.

Not sure what Erase pro is. I am assuming it is an AI. Regardless, you should be using your SERM and AI together the entire time. Some will run their AI a bit longer when using Clomid, but when using Nolva this is of no benefit.


Here's a better plan for you.

Days 1-35: Nolva @ 40 mg/day
Days 1-35: DAA @ 3 grams/day
Days 1-35: Anti-estrogen (I will not give a recommendation regarding the AI products you have, as I don't know what they are.)


there's no way in hell you will get gyno when using Nolva and an AI.

 

[Greedy]

You are spreading yourself too thin. 10 mg Nolva? When doing a PCT, you want to hit it hard and fast right from the start---not draw it out with sub-par dosages and drug combinations.

There is no need to taper down your Nolva dose. 40 mg/day is ideal, but if you don't have enough to use 40 mg, then use as much as you can. 20 mg is the bare minimum, although when Nolva is your only SERM, most will use 30-40 mg daily. 10 mg daily is too low.

Not sure what Erase pro is. I am assuming it is an AI. Regardless, you should be using your SERM and AI together the entire time. Some will run their AI a bit longer when using Clomid, but when using Nolva this is of no benefit.


Here's a better plan for you.

Days 1-35: Nolva @ 40 mg/day
Days 1-35: DAA @ 3 grams/day
Days 1-35: Anti-estrogen (I will not give a recommendation regarding the AI products you have, as I don't know what they are.)


there's no way in hell you will get gyno when using Nolva and an AI.

What this guy said is pretty on point. Why not just use reg gear? Seems less complicated.

 

[Goingham]

Thank you Mike Arnold. As you suggested, I won't taper down on nolva and I'll take a straight dose of 40mg until pct is over. Erase pro is an anti estro.

Thanks for setting it straight.


@Greedy: I think your comment is just as on point as his. Real gear would be ideal. I just know so little at this point that I don't want to screw myself up too bad. I may also have some misconceptions that steer me away from real gear. If you have the time, input is welcome.

1) do I need to stick myself daily or multiple Times a day?

2) will real gear shut me down hard

3) Will i need a massive storage of needles on hand if I don't want to make weekly trips

I actually know very little on the whole process.

 

[ldog]

Goingham,

Thanks for being honest in regards to your experience. All folks have to start somewhere and your in the right place. Start by posting your stats and reafing the stickies.

 

[GreenHULK]

The dmz is going to shut u down all the same..
Do what Mika A. Said ull b ok
read his log on dmz.

 

[Goingham]

@Greenhulk will do right now. Just got my order in so I'm going to go over everything and make sure I have enough nolva to cover pct. Only half a bottle