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gyno during and after ph/dbol cycle

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so I did a cycle of PH of DMZ 3.0 and deca-drol from I.M. I also for the last 10 days of the cycle took 20-40mg of Pharmacom d-bol orals. so I was starting to have some gyno and was taking I.M.R. Tomoxifin with it towards the end of the cycle when I really noticed that the gyno was starting to come on pretty heavy. I finished cycle and started to take Nolvedex at 20mg a day before bed. the gyno is still pretty profound and once in a while my nips are pretty damn sensitive to the touch. it has been 3 weeks now since cycle, and they have not gotten any bigger it seemed to stop growing. so the question that I have is should I just stay on the nolvedex for 2-3 months and see how that does or what? or should i get something else, my parts around the nips are only noticeable when I am really warm they puff out pretty damn good, but when I have hard nips you cannot tell and everything looks great. any suggestions? thanks. I want to get this taken care of before i start pinning for the first time, i have Mix A from Valkyrie which contains: Trenbolone Enanthate 100mg/ml, Testosterone Enanthate 200mg/ml, ​Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg/ml.
I would also like to add the D-bol that I have for a pre-workout. So I need this taken care of. Any suggestions would be a big help, i am pretty new to this harder stuff but have been in the gym for over 10years. my stats are 31yrs, 195lbs, 6', 10% body fat.
 
Dude,

First off....get some bloodwork asap so you can properly understand your body and how to get back to homeostasis. I would not take anything else until you have educated yourself on gear. I'm being nice...I'm sure some folks will post and not be as cordial.
 
first; dbol is known for heavy aromitization, you shouldnt touch it without an AI. Second your not taking enough nolvadex (tamoxifin is nolvadex FYI), you should take at least 40mg a day at the onset of symptoms. bump up the dosage of the IMR tamoxifen to 40mg day. i know its legit and it will do its job. Third, if you havent already please discontinue using the dbol at least. Last, dont do AAS without doing your homework first our you will mess yourself up permanently. this forum has all the info a person could ever need or want, use it.
 
Agree with everything said thus far, but in addition... I would HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend against using a blend of Test E, Tren E, and DEca as your first first with injectables. In the mean, time bump up the nolvadex and get bloodwork to see what's going on try the "Female Hormone Panel" at privatemdlabs.
 
Make certain that you get the Sensitive E2 blood test as DaBeast mentions above(Female).
 
Dbol is an estrogen bomb man. I would have run an AI from the start with it. But now that you're here, up the nolva dose to 40mg, or give raloxifene a try. It's hands down the best serm for gyno. Get blood work ASAP, and begin an AI once you get an idea of where your e2 is at.
 
alright guys thanks for the info, I will work on getting myself in for a blood test. the good news is the Nolva seems to be working now that I have been taking it, my nips are not as swollen and not sensitive anymore, they are slowly going down. but I will still check out what has been said above. Thanks.
 
Dude,

First off....get some bloodwork asap so you can properly understand your body and how to get back to homeostasis. I would not take anything else until you have educated yourself on gear. I'm being nice...I'm sure some folks will post and not be as cordial.

agreed....
and OP.... use an AI next time...
 
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