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Had Mid-cycle Bloodwork done...need some input from IML brothers!!! Please???

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Need some advice...so I went and had my mid-cycle bloodwork done (10 weeks into cycle), yeah a little past the week that I wanted to do it (Week 8) but anyway had it done. So to quickly recap on what I am currently running:

Test C (500mg EW)...10 weeks into this
EQ (600mg EW)...10 weeks into this
Tren Ace (100mg EOD)...3 weeks into this
Proviron (75mg ED)...10 weeks into this
Aromasin (25mg ED)...10 weeks into this
T-bol (60mg ED)...weeks 1-6
Prami (.5mg E3D)...3 weeks into this
HCG (500iu EW)...1 week into this, yeah didn't start soon enough, my stupidity!!!

So since I can't seem to figure out how to completely upload my test results (PDF file which exceeds maximum allowed size :hmmm:) I will post the abnormal results from my test:

AST (SGOT): 59 iu/L HIGH (0-40)
ALT (SGPT): 45 iu/L HIGH (0-44)
Testosterone Serum: >1500 ng/dl HIGH (348-1197)...this is a good thing, AMA Test Cyp!
LH: 0.2 mIU/ml LOW (1.7-8.6)...yes shutdown
FSH Serum: 0.2 mIU/ml LOW (1.5-12.4)
Estradiol: 92.1 pg/mL HIGH!!! (7.6-42.6)...this really concerns me!
Creatinine Serum: 1.54 mg/dl HIGH (0.76-1.27)
eGFR If NonAfricn Am: 55 ml/min/1.73 LOW (>59)

Everything else tested within normal range. Can anybody give a little guidance here...I am thinking of switching the Aromasin for Letro? The high estrogen obviously needs to come down, but also the high liver count numbers, and just for the record I do not drink alcohol! I have been taking liver support supplements, and as of yesterday added an additional dose a day. I started HCG a little too late...this was my mistake which will never happen again. What happened was I had mixed 5000iu of HCG at week 6 in Sterile Water instead of Bac Water, so had to throw it all away. By the time I found Bac Water online, and had it delivered to me it was already into week 9...so I started it last Sunday.

I am really looking forward to some insight here and what I should do to correct the two issues.

Thanks in advance...maybe I am just a sensitive SOB!!!
 
Aromasin looks bunk. This is why I hate research chems. U can get halfway through a cycle assuming your ai is decent and bang gyno. If u have access to legit letro jump on it to get the estro levels down or go with formeron. It's guaranteed to not be bunk lol. U didn't get progesterone levels checked?
 
longworthb said:
Aromasin looks bunk. This is why I hate research chems. U can get halfway through a cycle assuming your ai is decent and bang gyno. If u have access to legit letro jump on it to get the estro levels down or go with formeron. It's guaranteed to not be bunk lol
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The Aromasin I have been using is not research chem, they are caps from my source...I have been using Prami research chem, and have Letro from 2 different research chem companies, and have used them both before with good results. It may be that I am more sensitive than most and need a stronger AI like Letro? Would Adex be a better option? It is research chem though also...but like I said the two sources I get them from have been good to me so far.
 
Most of the time it's not the sources fault it's bunk or underdosed. It's them damn chinos. If u were just very estro prone that level of aromasin should still knock it down. Jump on the letro and get that estro down bro
 
longworthb said:
Most of the time it's not the sources fault it's bunk or underdosed. It's them damn chinos. If u were just very estro prone that level of aromasin should still knock it down. Jump on the letro and get that estro down bro
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Actually started it last night...didn't want to go another day without trying something, and that is what my source recommended I do also. So yesterday I took 12.5mg Aromasin in the morning, and then 1.25mg Letro in evening along with .5mg Prami as well, to cover both. I will tell you, this morning I woke up with the worst headache, felt like crap...guessing the Prami (cracked open a new bottle from a different source). I'm guessing to do this and retest in 4 weeks or so? How about the liver values...are they of much concern? Supposed to start Anavar on November 29th @ 60mg ED for 4 weeks, then 80mg for 2 more weeks...is this not advisable at this point? I am just kind of weary but at the same time I do not drink alcohol and the only thing I ingest is good food, lots of water, supplements (liver support supplements too) and this current cycle...so at anyother time my liver is/should be healthy. What are your thoughts??
 
longworthb said:
Most of the time it's not the sources fault it's bunk or underdosed. It's them damn chinos. If u were just very estro prone that level of aromasin should still knock it down. Jump on the letro and get that estro down bro
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any source that is worth shit should test the batches they get so they dont look like fucktards selling fake products :coffee:
 
True but u know as well as I do not all sources do and a few bunk batches can slip by
 
longworthb said:
True but u know as well as I do not all sources do and a few bunk batches can slip by
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I know my source is looking into this matter as we speak, and if something did slip by it wouldn't be intentional by any means!!!

Here is another question to put on the table...is there anything that would block the Aromasin from being utilized??? Some other ingredient in another cycle support supplement...like Milk Thistle...that would interfere with its absorption? Just a thought...
 
Your liver values are not high enough that I would think twice about that. You're taking an oral so that is expected and those numbers are not bad either way.
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
Your liver values are not high enough that I would think twice about that. You're taking an oral so that is expected and those numbers are not bad either way.
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Sweet...that is what I wanted to hear...have been looking forward to it. E2 levels, so have been getting suggestions and wanted to know what would be best...up Aromasin dose to 37.5mg ED, Adex, or Letro???
 
Kidneys are in bad shape. Would consult a doctor before they get any worse.

Liver values are fine.
 
MuscleAddiction said:
Sweet...that is what I wanted to hear...have been looking forward to it. E2 levels, so have been getting suggestions and wanted to know what would be best...up Aromasin dose to 37.5mg ED, Adex, or Letro???
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Go with Adex
 
You could try uping your dose of aromasin to 25mg in the morning and 25mg at night. Then get your bloods checked again. Could just be under dosed.
 
Bud you could take 100mg of that ai and I don't think it would do anything. It's bunk. Try some of black lions formeron. He's a sponsor on here. I've been through about 10 bottles and all have been legit. I get labs done often. You will have to dial in your dose, but start around 1/2 ml twice per day.
 
MuscleAddiction said:
Sweet...that is what I wanted to hear...have been looking forward to it. E2 levels, so have been getting suggestions and wanted to know what would be best...up Aromasin dose to 37.5mg ED, Adex, or Letro???
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I would pick Adex but that is based on that being the only thing I've ever used. There are a lot of guys out here that might say otherwise. .5mg ED adex should be good. But your liver is all good man.
 
lets not jump to conclusions here please, MA.....weren't you running liquid stane from a research site during the front end of your cycle before you switched over to our aromasin? please correct me if im wrong, if that was the case who knows what your estro levels were before starting our aromasin
 
AlphaMalePharma said:
lets not jump to conclusions here please, MA.....weren't you running liquid stane from a research site during the front end of your cycle before you switched over to our aromasin? please correct me if im wrong, if that was the case who knows what your estro levels were before starting our aromasin
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That could be a missing piece to the puzzle, yes I was using a research chem Aromasin for the first 4 weeks of the cycle before jumping onto AMA Aromasin, which I have been using now for 6 weeks due to it was way more convenient in capsule form, and my trust and loyalty in AMA quality is 100%. That is why I was also posing the question is there something that I am taking that would inhibit the Aromasin's effectiveness??? This hasn't been addressed, and I by no means was insinuating that AMA's Aromasin was bunk...just trying to figure out why my E2 is so fucking high!!!! I dropped the Aromasin at this point and started Letro, but that and the Adex I have are research chems as well. What about bumping the Proviron up to 100mg???

Just looking for answers here...not accussing by any means!!!!
 
If you were using the aromasin for the last 6 weeks, then it's bunk or way underdosed.
 
:wits:...so my question is still does anything block Aromasin from being utilized in the body like Milk Thistle or??? AMA's gear is fucking legit, once again my test levels are through the roof, and should I bump my Proviron dose to 100mg ED? Thanks for all of your guys input and it is truly appreciated, still just looking to reduce estrogen at this point. And I believe the consensus on my liver values is that they are nothing to be concerned about and I am gtg for Anavar on the 26th of this month because I am looking forward to it!
 
AMA's gear is fucking legit, once again my test levels are through the roof!
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How do you know your test levels are thru the roof? All you know is you're above 1500 and I've tested above that on 300mg of test per week.
 
If ur trying to get the estro down bro just use the letro. Upping the proviron could help drop estro a little but why do that when u have letro?
 
Vibrant said:
How do you know your test levels are thru the roof? All you know is you're above 1500 and I've tested above that on 300mg of test per week.
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i'd say anything over 1500 is pretty high lol, not to mention he is only running 500mg/week of cyp so i'd say our gear is on point...not to mention MA was gyno prone from the start and on top of that ran someone else's "lquid stane" for the first 4 weeks of his cycle so there is way to many variables to say our aromasin is bunk......
 
AlphaMalePharma said:
i'd say anything over 1500 is pretty high lol, not to mention he is only running 500mg/week of cyp so i'd say our gear is on point...not to mention MA was gyno prone from the start and on top of that ran someone else's "lquid stane" for the first 4 weeks of his cycle so there is way to many variables to say our aromasin is bunk......
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Yes, there are variables, and yes I probably am more prone to high estrogen (I live in a house with 3 females, lots of estrogen lol)...so having that said I have to use something stronger, and plan my bloodwork earlier and more frequent during cycle to catch this stuff earlier so I don't freak out when it is more concerning...so anyway yes probably more error on my part, jumping on Letro (research chem) and seeing if I can stop it from getting higher or worse.

Thanks AMA for always being there for your customers!
 
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Here are some current pictures of me...I have always hated taking pictures of myself, I'm the one who photographs everyone else lol!!! Anyway, they are blurry pics off the phone. I think that AMA gear is doing a fantastic job for me, and aside from the abnormalities in my bloodwork that will get corrected, everything else is great!!!
 
TrojanMan60563 said:
Your liver values are not high enough that I would think twice about that. You're taking an oral so that is expected and those numbers are not bad either way.
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Yeah I will second that
 
Thanks for everyone chiming in...I will continue with Letro, start Anavar as planned, and retake bloods in a month or so and see how everything looks then. Again wasn't ever insinuating or pointing fingers just trying to find a solution to my problem, thanks again
 
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