Is a cycle after 20 years off going to be just like a first cycle?

[RelentlessRock]

Just curious if a cycle after 20 years off is going to be just like a first cycle in terms of its lower dosing yet dramatic results?

I'm in my 40's and am going to b-build again. The last cycle I did (and I never did a lot) was almost 20 years ago.

So, I should probably expect pretty dramatic results like a typical first cycle?

I only did about 5 cycles in the day. 3 were simple 2 steroid stacks:

Test, with Dbol,
Test with Eq then
Test with Winstrol.
Then one cycle that was just Anadrol 50 alone.
One was only Eq. I used to get cases of them from a friend who worked at a vet clinic!

I am planning on doing 500 or 600mg of test cypionate for 12 weeks. Since I have read that the body seems to reach homeostasis in about 8-9 weeks I will likely go 500 mg for 8 weeks, then up it to 600 mg for the last 4.

Thanks for the feedback!

I used to be 6 foot 230 - 8% bf and want to get there and beyond again.

 

[vassille]

yes you will get results how dramatic it all depends as you dont have the other hormones from the early 20s. However if you are willing to supplement what hormones are low like GH and such you can get some dramatic results.
When I get on my stack I blow up more than I did in the past actually. But I think is also muscle maturation.

 

[RelentlessRock]

yes you will get results how dramatic it all depends as you dont have the other hormones from the early 20s. However if you are willing to supplement what hormones are low like GH and such you can get some dramatic results.
When I get on my stack I blow up more than I did in the past actually. But I think is also muscle maturation.

Thank man. Maybe part of it is man strength too. I just have the strongest mind will these days compared to then. I was always determined but over the years I have learned to work exceedingly hard at things.

I am researching GH. I need to find something relatively affordable. I think it would also do good for the joints/tendons ligaments... Never used it before.

 

[vassille]

Yes GH is great for over 40 ppl like us. It also increases IGF which benefits muscle building greatly. Also another thing to watch is your insulin response. That's another major part in puting on muscle. If you have all these in order you can get great results.

 

[MisterMak]

Yes it would be like a virgin again.

 

[RelentlessRock]

Also another thing to watch is your insulin response. If you have all these in order you can get great results.

I'm not sure what that would look like. Could you refer me to anything?


Someone recommended this:

Weeks 1-8 500mg/test C
Weeks 9-12 600mg/test C
Weeks 2-12 - 250 iu HCG, Mon/Thurs
Weeks 15-16 - 40mg nolva ED
Weeks 17-18 - 20mg nolva ED

Have to get back to research on GH.

 

[Goodskie]

Throw in some dbol

 

[the_predator]

Your receptors should amply be ready to be saturated

 

[vassille]

I'm not sure what that would look like. Could you refer me to anything?


Someone recommended this:

Weeks 1-8 500mg/test C
Weeks 9-12 600mg/test C
Weeks 2-12 - 250 iu HCG, Mon/Thurs
Weeks 15-16 - 40mg nolva ED
Weeks 17-18 - 20mg nolva ED

Have to get back to research on GH.

cycle or insulin response or both?

 

[WeekendWarrior]

I would run
Weeks 1-6 400mg test C
Weeks 7-12 600mg test C
I wouldn't wait for homeostasis to happen and then try upping the dose to stop it(esp with long esters). I would just try and plan for it not to happen at all.

 

[RelentlessRock]

I would run
Weeks 1-6 400mg test C
Weeks 7-12 600mg test C
I wouldn't wait for homeostasis to happen and then try upping the dose to stop it(esp with long esters). I would just try and plan for it not to happen at all.

That is a good point. I agree. Thank you.

 

[RelentlessRock]

Are you suggesting me take insulin? Like Test, GH and Insulin?

 

[RelentlessRock]

Yeah, saturation is the goal! LOL.