Need Supplement help!!!!!!!

[leeisva]

Hi Im 19, 5'10, 165-170 as my weight goes back n forth between the two, have a very muscular, lean, but build. In fact I put on muscle so fast its frightening, and its always so very lean, im also very vascular. dunno if that helps? I have a good diet, and on avg eat about 3k cals a day when im not working out, and about 4-6k when i am.

But recently I have been unable to get more gains doing the things I have been, even pushing my muscles to the absolute limit, gets me a big pump and maybe a little more size here and there, but otherwise very... very slowly.

Thats why I started looking into supps. The onlly things I have taken are vits and wheys, never taken creatines or any PHs or NO, none of that. Which brings me to my next question.

Can I have a person who actually knows what they are talking about give me a full list of things pre-durring-- and post-workouts and any tips?

I have looked a little into NO pre workouts and the one I like the best is Gaspari SuperPump MAX, but other than no pre workouts and even that, I know little in the supp department. Another side note, idk if this helps, but i wanna be around 190+ lbs

 

[SwoleZilla]

go a head and hop on a preworkout...i know personally i can lift without a preworkout

 

[Killermonkey]

I dislike creative, NO and whatever. I just use protein, 200 mg caffeine pill, and animal packs and I am making awesome gains on and off the sauce

 

[leeisva]

Its not that I can't lift without one, its that Im looking for something to aid in helping me gain mass, because lifting now doesnt seem to do it anymore.

 

[R1balla]

Protein, food, Creatine, Multi, fish oil, BCAAs. you can take a pre workout, but dont have to. i think they are pointless unless you are just super tired one day.

 

[Killermonkey]

Nothing on the market, in my experience, has helped me gain mass than my natural ability. Also, I have tried jack3d , super pump, and no explode- and caffeine does the same shit for me as a $4 bottle of caffeine does.

A waste IMHO

 

[leeisva]

are you positive it did nothing for you? (the NO?) after reading up on it, it takes up to 2 weeks of continuously taking it for it take effect, and a bunch of double blind studies accross the nations universities have concluded that NO helps build muscle, very, very well as long as you are eating well with it. Not trying to sound like a smart ass, just trying to get as much info on the things i could be spending $ on

 

[FitnessFreek]

Creatine is the first thing you should look at. Scientifically proven and results are seen easily over time. Next, a pre WO is good when the creatine gains stop and you hit another plateau. Stim or non Stim, whatever you feel comfortable with. Eat more food too and the gains will slowly keep coming. Get plenty of rest, etc. If you have been sticking to the same routine for a while, you may want to switch that up as well.

 

[leeisva]

I dislike creative, NO and whatever. I just use protein, 200 mg caffeine pill, and animal packs and I am making awesome gains on and off the sauce

what are animal packs? and "sauce"? (PHs or PSs?)

 

[bigdtrain]

sauce is the good ole juice, dem roids, which you should not be taking

 

[theCaptn']

NO products are horseshit.

In fact, horseshit has been proven to be more anabolic than NO products

 

[PushAndPull]

All you need are the basics
Creatine, multivitamin, fish oil.
Protein powder if you are not getting enough in your diet.
You're 19, you shouldn't need a pre workout supplement or any kind of stimulants.

 

[leeisva]

Thanks push, was kinda cloudy on what i needed