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nolv vs clomid vs both for pct
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I used to do Nolva only, but for the past two cycle PCTs I used nolva and clomid. I keep the clomid dose at 50mg to avoid the side effects.
Including both has helped speed my recovery, particularly after using tren for 10 weeks.
Including both has helped speed my recovery, particularly after using tren for 10 weeks.
When i came off my last cycle, I used nolva 20 mgs and clomid at 50mgs ea. dayForemanRules said:
i run nova @10mg a day ED during my cycle if it contains high amounts of test. as this seems to keep the water retenion to a min and keeps gyno at bay
but i only run clomid and HCG for PCT.Clomid is not an anabolic/a
ndrogenic steroid. Since it is a synthetic estrogen it belongs, however, to the group of sex hormones. In school medicine Clomid is normally used to trigger ovulation. Clomid also has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own) testosterone level. Clomid is especially effective when the body's own testosterone production, due to the intake of anabolic/androgenic steroids, is suppressed. In most cases Clomid can normalize the testosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development) within 10- 14 days. For this reason Clomid is primarily taken after steroids are discontinued. At this time it is extremely important to bring the testosterone production to a normal level as quickly as possible so that the loss of strength and muscle mass is minimized. Even better results can be achieved if Clomid is combined with HCG or when Clomid is used after the intake of HCG.
A rarely observed but welcome characteristic of Nolvadex is that it has a direct influence on the hypothalamus and thus, by an in-creased release of gonadotropine, it stimulates the testosterone pro-duction in the testes. This does not result in a tremendous but still a measurable increase of the body's own testosterone. This effect, however, is not sufficient to significantly increase the testosterone production reduced by anabolic/androgenic steroids.
but i only run clomid and HCG for PCT.Clomid is not an anabolic/a
ndrogenic steroid. Since it is a synthetic estrogen it belongs, however, to the group of sex hormones. In school medicine Clomid is normally used to trigger ovulation. Clomid also has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own) testosterone level. Clomid is especially effective when the body's own testosterone production, due to the intake of anabolic/androgenic steroids, is suppressed. In most cases Clomid can normalize the testosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development) within 10- 14 days. For this reason Clomid is primarily taken after steroids are discontinued. At this time it is extremely important to bring the testosterone production to a normal level as quickly as possible so that the loss of strength and muscle mass is minimized. Even better results can be achieved if Clomid is combined with HCG or when Clomid is used after the intake of HCG.
A rarely observed but welcome characteristic of Nolvadex is that it has a direct influence on the hypothalamus and thus, by an in-creased release of gonadotropine, it stimulates the testosterone pro-duction in the testes. This does not result in a tremendous but still a measurable increase of the body's own testosterone. This effect, however, is not sufficient to significantly increase the testosterone production reduced by anabolic/androgenic steroids.
I don't know what the fuck to think anymore...every article I read says something different and words it in such a way that they all seem infalible...
i use nolva only right now, although i am seeking an alternative, i've totally ruled out clomid due to the potential side effects, i am already an extemely emotionally unstable individual, somehow i feel for me to use clomiphene is not at all wise
I did between 100-150 mg of Clompiphene Citrate/day for the first 10 days or so. Note that a good portion of that is the citrate. My max dose was probably equivalent to 100 mg clomid/day. I was also taking about 60 mg tamoxifen citrate and Adex. After dropping the clomid, my eyesight gradually returned to normal over a 4 week period.ForemanRules said:
I got a pct regimen used by a few national level bodybuilders that goes as follows.
30 days in length:
clomid@100mg/ed 1-30
nolva@20mg/ed 1-30
arimidex@.25 mg ed (or .5mg eod) 1-30
After a 14 or so week cycle including 8 weeks of tren, I might give it a go to get back to normal. Guys correct me you think the above is unnecessary. I was also planning to run some Hcg for the last 3 weeks I am on cycle. IGF-1 lr3 will also be included for those 30 days because I can get it very cheap.
30 days in length:
clomid@100mg/ed 1-30
nolva@20mg/ed 1-30
arimidex@.25 mg ed (or .5mg eod) 1-30
After a 14 or so week cycle including 8 weeks of tren, I might give it a go to get back to normal. Guys correct me you think the above is unnecessary. I was also planning to run some Hcg for the last 3 weeks I am on cycle. IGF-1 lr3 will also be included for those 30 days because I can get it very cheap.
that would include aromasin too though right?Pirate! said:
Lad you just have to use whatever works for you. You don't even have to do PCT for 4 weeks like a lot of people say. Once your testes are normal and your feeling good, come off the shit. Hell 20 years ago when I cycled for 7 years we didn't even have the meds. We came off naturally. Just takes longer to get everything to normal.PWGriffin said:
yeah i hear that, 0.5mg/eod of dex is fine with me, soon as i hit 0.5mg/ed i could feel it in the gym big time (the dry joints), all of that extra stability that the water from the AAS gives you in your joints just went, i felt like a truck without tyres, i'm still waiting on that sin from C1R, might change from the dex to it midway through my course to see how it works for me and give my lipids a breakPirate! said:
My next cycle I plan to do a 4 week PCT
1-4 20mg Nolva ED
1-2 50mg Clomid ED
I think its all about the combo of the two working together...but in moderate to low doses. Similar to gear when you stack you don't need to use as high of doses to get a desired result. I see taking less as a real benefit.
1-4 20mg Nolva ED
1-2 50mg Clomid ED
I think its all about the combo of the two working together...but in moderate to low doses. Similar to gear when you stack you don't need to use as high of doses to get a desired result. I see taking less as a real benefit.
no truer words have been spokenTrojanMan60563 said:
if you have a headache, do you take the whole bottle or just enough to get the job done?
Tha Don said:no truer words have been spoken
if you have a headache, do you take the whole bottle or just enough to get the job done?
Yeah good example....I have a friend when she gets a headache she takes like 4 advils at once...when I get a headache I start with one pill and wait to see if it works, then add more if needed.
Longer and lighter versus harder and shorter seems to be the best, it just takes time to recouperate period no matter how much of this stuff you run.
Clomid as most of you know doesn't agree with me, I hate it. Turns me into a little bitch, I can survive maybe 50mg for a week, 100mg for a week - no.
Clomid as most of you know doesn't agree with me, I hate it. Turns me into a little bitch, I can survive maybe 50mg for a week, 100mg for a week - no.
Mudge said:
Yeah you said a long time ago how it makes you get all emotional and sob like a girl..
I think 50mg for two weeks is a good dose...most people I read about that don't like it are taking it in huge doses like 200-400mg for the first week and drop it from there. I think you are right Mudge....slow and steady wins the race. 
