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Porn industry could leave L.A. if condoms required

LOS ANGELES (AP) ??? Some of the most prominent purveyors of erotic films say they'll start packing up their sex toys and abandoning the U.S. porn capital if authorities carry through with an effort to police film sets and order that every actor be outfitted with a condom.

Dancers perform during the 27th annual Adult Video News Awards Show in 2010. Industry leaders are threatening to leave Los Angeles over a proposed condom requirement.

That effort took a serious leap forward Tuesday when the Los Angeles city council voted 9-1 to grant final approval to an ordinance that would deny film permits to producers who do not comply with the condom requirement. The measure now goes to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa for approval. Before the measure can take effect, the council has called for the creation of a committee to determine how it might be enforced.

"It's going to be interesting to see how in fact they do try to enforce it and who's going to fund it, and all of the time and effort they're going to spend," said Steven Hirsch, co-founder and co-chairman of Los Angeles-based Vivid, one of the largest makers of erotic movies.

"Ultimately I think what they will find is people will just stop shooting in the city of Los Angeles," added Hirsch. "That's a given."

His company would be among those that would consider leaving, he said.

Approximately 90 percent of U.S. porn films are made in Los Angeles, almost all of them in the city's San Fernando Valley, said Mark Kernes, senior editor of Adult Video News.

When films, Internet downloads, sex toys and admission to dance clubs are counted, Kernes said, it's an industry that produces about $8 billion a year in revenue. It has been battered in recent years, however, by the recession and the increased popularity of free Internet porn.

Kernes and others say requiring condoms would further erode business.

They say consumers, particularly those overseas, have made it clear they won't watch films when the actors use condoms, complaining that it is distracting and ruins the fantasy.

"The only thing that the city could potentially achieve is losing some film permit money and driving some productions away, but you can't actually compel an industry to create a product that the market doesn't want," said Christian Mann, general manager of Evil Angel, another of the industry's largest production companies.

Ged Kenslea, spokesman for the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, said the measure is needed because the industry has failed to properly police itself. For years, he said, filmmakers have ignored state health laws mandating the use of condoms when workers are exposed to blood-borne pathogens.

"Let's make one thing clear: Condom use on adult film sets is, and has been, the law in California under blood-borne pathogens regulations," he said. "It is just a law that has not been uniformly enforced or followed. This film permit ordinance that the city council approved today provides another enforcement mechanism to make sure that adult film producers are complying with existing California law."

The council's final vote to approve the law was taken without public discussion, on a day when most of the porn industry's major players were in Las Vegas preparing for Wednesday's opening of the Adult Entertainment Expo, their industry's largest trade event.

The industry already does its own policing, filmmakers say, requiring actors be tested for sexually transmitted diseases a minimum of every 30 days when they are working. They say no cases of HIV have been directly linked to porn films since 2004, adding they fear if the industry scatters to areas outside of Los Angeles, testing could fall by the wayside, exposing performers to more risk.

"If someone is going to catch an STD, it's usually out of the business because we are tested so often," said veteran porn actress and producer Tabitha Stevens.

In her 17 years in the business, Stevens said, she has worked both with and without condoms. Although she prefers to use condoms, acknowledging they do increase safety, she said the choice should be left up to the performers and not mandated by a government agency.

"If you want to wear them, wear them. If you don't, don't. That's up to the talent to decide. It shouldn't be up to the government to decide," she said.
 
Porn industry could leave L.A. if condoms required

LOS ANGELES (AP) ??? Some of the most prominent purveyors of erotic films say they'll start packing up their sex toys and abandoning the U.S. porn capital if authorities carry through with an effort to police film sets and order that every actor be outfitted with a condom.

Dancers perform during the 27th annual Adult Video News Awards Show in 2010. Industry leaders are threatening to leave Los Angeles over a proposed condom requirement.

That effort took a serious leap forward Tuesday when the Los Angeles city council voted 9-1 to grant final approval to an ordinance that would deny film permits to producers who do not comply with the condom requirement. The measure now goes to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa for approval. Before the measure can take effect, the council has called for the creation of a committee to determine how it might be enforced.

"It's going to be interesting to see how in fact they do try to enforce it and who's going to fund it, and all of the time and effort they're going to spend," said Steven Hirsch, co-founder and co-chairman of Los Angeles-based Vivid, one of the largest makers of erotic movies.

"Ultimately I think what they will find is people will just stop shooting in the city of Los Angeles," added Hirsch. "That's a given."

His company would be among those that would consider leaving, he said.

Approximately 90 percent of U.S. porn films are made in Los Angeles, almost all of them in the city's San Fernando Valley, said Mark Kernes, senior editor of Adult Video News.

When films, Internet downloads, sex toys and admission to dance clubs are counted, Kernes said, it's an industry that produces about $8 billion a year in revenue. It has been battered in recent years, however, by the recession and the increased popularity of free Internet porn.

Kernes and others say requiring condoms would further erode business.

They say consumers, particularly those overseas, have made it clear they won't watch films when the actors use condoms, complaining that it is distracting and ruins the fantasy.

"The only thing that the city could potentially achieve is losing some film permit money and driving some productions away, but you can't actually compel an industry to create a product that the market doesn't want," said Christian Mann, general manager of Evil Angel, another of the industry's largest production companies.

Ged Kenslea, spokesman for the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, said the measure is needed because the industry has failed to properly police itself. For years, he said, filmmakers have ignored state health laws mandating the use of condoms when workers are exposed to blood-borne pathogens.

"Let's make one thing clear: Condom use on adult film sets is, and has been, the law in California under blood-borne pathogens regulations," he said. "It is just a law that has not been uniformly enforced or followed. This film permit ordinance that the city council approved today provides another enforcement mechanism to make sure that adult film producers are complying with existing California law."

The council's final vote to approve the law was taken without public discussion, on a day when most of the porn industry's major players were in Las Vegas preparing for Wednesday's opening of the Adult Entertainment Expo, their industry's largest trade event.

The industry already does its own policing, filmmakers say, requiring actors be tested for sexually transmitted diseases a minimum of every 30 days when they are working. They say no cases of HIV have been directly linked to porn films since 2004, adding they fear if the industry scatters to areas outside of Los Angeles, testing could fall by the wayside, exposing performers to more risk.

"If someone is going to catch an STD, it's usually out of the business because we are tested so often," said veteran porn actress and producer Tabitha Stevens.

In her 17 years in the business, Stevens said, she has worked both with and without condoms. Although she prefers to use condoms, acknowledging they do increase safety, she said the choice should be left up to the performers and not mandated by a government agency.

"If you want to wear them, wear them. If you don't, don't. That's up to the talent to decide. It shouldn't be up to the government to decide," she said.

Less government, huh! Government is always intervening where they're not wanted, always trying to regulate people.

They just don't want regulations on big pharma or big business.

Hypocracy to the umpteenth degree, Go figure.
 
i hate condoms in porn and it will hurt sales if it's forced. wait a minute.... who pays for porn anyway? there goes the "money" shot. lol... let's close in on the cum filling up the condom's reservoir tip. oy bad idea. next it will be doctor's reporting people for passing stds and insurance companies seeking damages from mr didn't wear a condom.
 
I can't feel shit with a condom. Why not just have mandatory testing instead?
 
Less government, huh! Government is always intervening where they're not wanted, always trying to regulate people.

They just don't want regulations on big pharma or big business.

Hypocracy to the umpteenth degree, Go figure.

x2
 
It's California. The land of crazy liberals. So they've gone so far, they've left reality. Just look as some of the other laws they've passed and what they've trying to pass.

I like LA, but the state is run by some bat-shit crazy people.
 
:hmmm: It's estimated that there are roughly 35,000 teen run aways a year.

Why couldn't they just pick from this talent pool?

There has to be at least 17,000 fresh, innocent, naive tarts out of that many people.
 
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The LA city council is probably the dumbest group of people I have ever seen. All the porn industry has to do is shoot their films in ventura county which is only 7 miles away. All the council is doing is chasing tax money away. They do stupid shit like this daily.
 
If they want to wear condom's then ahh move to NEvada and make it a brothal. I'm sure some bro's here will pay. They will make more money that way; I don't know anyone who pay's for porn anymore
 
The LA city council is probably the dumbest group of people I have ever seen. All the porn industry has to do is shoot their films in ventura county which is only 7 miles away. All the council is doing is chasing tax money away. They do stupid shit like this daily.
It's full of libtards and Mexicans. What did you expect?
 
We are doing business in Cali now, I have never met a bigger bunch of dipshit regulators and suppliers in my entire career. No fucking wonder why the state is broke as FUCK!
 
We are doing business in Cali now, I have never met a bigger bunch of dipshit regulators and suppliers in my entire career. No fucking wonder why the state is broke as FUCK!
It's what you get when you take Political Correctness to it's conclusion.

Fun Fact: In Los Angeles, it's against city regulation to refer to two IDE hard drives in the same PC as "master" and "slave." They must be called "primary" and "secondary."
 
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We are doing business in Cali now, I have never met a bigger bunch of dipshit regulators and suppliers in my entire career. No fucking wonder why the state is broke as FUCK!

And now their giving free money to illegals for a college education. So how does one get a degreed job without documentation? :hmmm:
 
if they do this how long before you see used pornstar condoms for sale? there's some fucktard here that keeps posting some toothy cheeseball marco banderas i'm sure he'd pay for n drink the guys splooge.
 
I won't watch porn that uses condoms. Also, somewhat off topic I guess, but I can't believe there is a porn industry left. The free stuff done by amateurs is better in almost every way.
 
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