Red Sox vs Yankees in 2009

[soxmuscle]

Calm down there, Fourth Place.

Don't count the O's out yet.

 

[soxmuscle]

This thread has the gay.

Don't worry, the rebuilding will start soon enough.

Halladay will be in another uniform, your young players will be healthy and who knows.. maybe in 2010 the Jays can win 70-80 games and be a near .500 team.

 

[soxmuscle]

This is very true, Theo has made a huge impact in Boston.

I will agree of late Theo has had the upper hand, in fact I didn't realize how much Cashman has done for the Yankees until now.
He has made a mistake of late with the pitchers he's obtained. It's all in Torre's book.

His numbers are down but he's not dead dammit.

I never said he was dead; he's certainly not a corpse and a negative like Jason Varitek now is on the offensive side of things. All I've said all along is that Jed Lowrie may outperform Derek Jeter in 2009. Both aren't very good defensively, but Jeter has been a liability in the field over the last two seasons.

If Jeter is in the two spot it will be a mistake. Same goes for Francona if he keeps Ortiz in the three hole and he never comes back around.

 

[soxmuscle]

Pretty solid AL East preview here...

Rays face big task vs. big money teams in AL East - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

First impression: So, the Yankees spent $180 million on Mark Teixeira, $161 million on CC Sabathia, $82.5 million on A.J. Burnett, and all anyone wants to talk about is Alex Rodriguez testing positive for steroids? Come on! What about Derek Jeter slowing down, Mariano Rivera drinking from the fountain of youth, Joba Chamberlain getting a full season to strut his starter stuff, and – oh, hell, who are we kidding? Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids.
Competition: Certainly $200 million buys a lot. Not a bullpen. The Yankees could run into the same problem as last season with this bunch of characters: Damaso Marte, Brian Bruney, Jonathan Albaladejo and Edwar Ramirez. Not exactly the Nasty Boys. Manager Joe Girardi also must figure out his outfield rotation – and whether there’s room for Brett Gardner or Melky Cabrera when Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui, Xavier Nady and Nick Swisher are around.
Hot seat: Teixeira. Sabathia, Burnett. Jeter. Oh, pretty much everyone. And Rodriguez. Definitely, definitely A-Rod.
Next: For a team that wanted to commit much of its efforts to the farm system, the Yankees are going through a serious drought. When the franchise’s best prospect looks like a classic Yankee bust waiting to happen – Austin Jackson, one scout said, “is good, but not that good” – it doesn’t inspire confidence.

First impression: Easy to forget that the Red Sox were one game away from the World Series. And with the whole gang back – at least those who matter – and Rocco Baldelli, Brad Penny and John Smoltz joining the party, the Red Sox may well be favorites in a division with the defending AL champions and the $200 million machine.
Competition: How Boston sorts out the Julio Lugo/Jed Lowrie mess at shortstop – play Lugo because you pay Lugo, or allow yourself a $9 million bench luxury – will be the most compelling story line in Fort Myers, Fla. How the back end of the rotation sorts out – Tim Wakefield and Penny are favorites, with Clay Buchholz there and Smoltz poised for a midseason return – will rank second.
Hot seat: Until his AL Championship Series Game 5 heroics, David Ortiz spent the series looking like an old robot, worn out by overuse. Ortiz says his clicking wrist feels fine. If not, the Red Sox, cool and machine-like as ever, will have no qualms about getting rid of him, sentiment be damned.
Next: Between Buchholz, Michael Bowden and Daniel Bard, the Red Sox have their own set of coming Killer B’s. And the letter before that is well-represented, too, with first baseman Lars Anderson, who could force Kevin Youkilis back to third base by 2011 – at the latest.

 

[min0 lee]

If not, the Red Sox, cool and machine-like as ever, will have no qualms about getting rid of him, sentiment be damned.

This is interesting Sox, the Yankees of yesteryear used to operate this way.
They used to operate like a company and were very sussecful in doing so.
This was before the CBS took over.

 

[soxmuscle]

This is interesting Sox, the Yankees of yesteryear used to operate this way.
They used to operate like a company and were very sussecful in doing so.
This was before the CBS took over.

In this day and age, I think it's the way teams need to be ran.

The players are certainly doing no favors to teams, so why should teams be any different to the players?

I think the best example is the Jason Varitek ridiculousness.

 

[min0 lee]

In this day and age, I think it's the way teams need to be ran.

The players are certainly doing no favors to teams, so why should teams be any different to the players?

I think the best example is the Jason Varitek ridiculousness.

It's his bastard of an agent.
Baseball really needs to get rid of Boras.

 

[tucker01]

Don't worry, the rebuilding will start soon enough.

Halladay will be in another uniform, your young players will be healthy and who knows.. maybe in 2010 the Jays can win 70-80 games and be a near .500 team.

Yep I would trade Halliday... could get a shitload for him... especially with how much his salary is. Trade Wells, Trade Rios. And Start to rebuild.

 

[soxmuscle]

It's his bastard of an agent.
Baseball really needs to get rid of Boras.

I don't disagree but it'll just never happen. For the most part, Scott Boras gets you the most money. Many players play the game of baseball to make the most money they can ala Alex Rodriguez and Jason Varitek among others.

 

[soxmuscle]

Yep I would trade Halliday... could get a shitload for him... especially with how much his salary is. Trade Wells, Trade Rios. And Start to rebuild.

Halladay is going to get you guys an incredible amount of talent.

Still though, I don't think you should trade Wells or Rios just yet. With their contracts, the haul won't be much and odds are the Jays would end up having to eat money.

Trade Halladay, hope that Wells and Rios turn it around and play like they're capable of playing and get ready for 2010 and 2011.