Hello all,
I've been a lurker on here for a while and decided to take the plunge and create an account and make my first post. I'm trying to do research on my first cycle beforehand so as to minimize and side effects.
A little about me: I'm 27yo, 5ft10in tall currently about 185lbs. I've been lifting off and on since I was 15yo, played football all through hs and a little bit in college. Been pretty athletic and active most of my life. I took some time off from lifting few years ago due to a back injury and then a knee injury. I'm not new to lifting by any means and don't plan on jumping into "gear" without understanding it completely first. I'm pretty confident that my training and diet is in order. Diet wise I've been able to bulk up to about 205lbs pretty cleanly with not much fat gain and I cut back down to ~180-185lbs where Im at now. Training wise I've done Rippetoe's SS program, Bill Starr/Madcow's 5x5, and Rippetoe's TM. I've made outstanding gains on each but looking to take it to the next level. My goals are primarily strength and some size. I dont mind a little water weight and fat gain but I'm not looking to down 8000cal a day either lol.
What I was thinking of doing as my FIRST ever cycle was test enanthate and maybe adding some dbol. I've looked into getting my bloodwork done at privatemdlabs and am thinking of doing it before and after the cycle unless its only needed afterwards. So on to the cycle:
test E weeks 1-8 500mg/wk (250mgx2 Mon & Thurs)
dbol weeks 4-8 40mg ED
and then PCT which is where I'm confused as all hell haha.
I've heard of people doing the dbol in the first weeks as a kickstart but I think I'd rather it towards the end to finish strong. Regarding PCT I've seen a thousand contradicting opinions and realize its not an exact science but more what works for each individual user. What I'm looking for is guidance to steer me in the right direction. my main questions would be:
1) I've read about HCG and helping to recover my boys size and test production. But one person says run it on cycle, another says on cycle and PCT and yet another says for PCT. Do I need HCG for this type of cycle and it being my first? If I do, I'm thinking 250iusx2 a week would suffice but during the entire cycle or what?
2) Arimasin, Arimadex, Nolva, clomid etc. Everyone has varying opinions of the usefulness and/or necessity of each of these. I understand I need some PCT support but how much and of what? THis would be a first cycle and from what I've seen not a very agressive one at that.
Sorry for the long ass post haha but I always research things before doing them and this is no exception. I know test is not a magic potion and I don't expect it to be one. I've been reading a lot about all this and I've seen thoughts in all directions. Looking for more guidance than a cookie cutter prescription for me. Thanks in advance
I've been a lurker on here for a while and decided to take the plunge and create an account and make my first post. I'm trying to do research on my first cycle beforehand so as to minimize and side effects.
A little about me: I'm 27yo, 5ft10in tall currently about 185lbs. I've been lifting off and on since I was 15yo, played football all through hs and a little bit in college. Been pretty athletic and active most of my life. I took some time off from lifting few years ago due to a back injury and then a knee injury. I'm not new to lifting by any means and don't plan on jumping into "gear" without understanding it completely first. I'm pretty confident that my training and diet is in order. Diet wise I've been able to bulk up to about 205lbs pretty cleanly with not much fat gain and I cut back down to ~180-185lbs where Im at now. Training wise I've done Rippetoe's SS program, Bill Starr/Madcow's 5x5, and Rippetoe's TM. I've made outstanding gains on each but looking to take it to the next level. My goals are primarily strength and some size. I dont mind a little water weight and fat gain but I'm not looking to down 8000cal a day either lol.
What I was thinking of doing as my FIRST ever cycle was test enanthate and maybe adding some dbol. I've looked into getting my bloodwork done at privatemdlabs and am thinking of doing it before and after the cycle unless its only needed afterwards. So on to the cycle:
test E weeks 1-8 500mg/wk (250mgx2 Mon & Thurs)
dbol weeks 4-8 40mg ED
and then PCT which is where I'm confused as all hell haha.
I've heard of people doing the dbol in the first weeks as a kickstart but I think I'd rather it towards the end to finish strong. Regarding PCT I've seen a thousand contradicting opinions and realize its not an exact science but more what works for each individual user. What I'm looking for is guidance to steer me in the right direction. my main questions would be:
1) I've read about HCG and helping to recover my boys size and test production. But one person says run it on cycle, another says on cycle and PCT and yet another says for PCT. Do I need HCG for this type of cycle and it being my first? If I do, I'm thinking 250iusx2 a week would suffice but during the entire cycle or what?
2) Arimasin, Arimadex, Nolva, clomid etc. Everyone has varying opinions of the usefulness and/or necessity of each of these. I understand I need some PCT support but how much and of what? THis would be a first cycle and from what I've seen not a very agressive one at that.
Sorry for the long ass post haha but I always research things before doing them and this is no exception. I know test is not a magic potion and I don't expect it to be one. I've been reading a lot about all this and I've seen thoughts in all directions. Looking for more guidance than a cookie cutter prescription for me. Thanks in advance
