Roids and Tendon Damage

[solidassears]

Busted up my elbow tendons yesterday at least I think that's what I did so I've been reading about roids and tendons.. Interesting and short read:

https://www.whatsteroids.com/steroids/steroids-use-affects-tendons/

I think I need to up my Decca dose, but I'm having difficulty finding how many grains of Decca in a 10 ML dose. Any ideas how to convert?

 

[dagambd]

Busted up my elbow tendons yesterday at least I think that's what I did so I've been reading about roids and tendons.. Interesting and short read:

https://www.whatsteroids.com/steroids/steroids-use-affects-tendons/

I think I need to up my Decca dose, but I'm having difficulty finding how many grains of Decca in a 10 ML dose. Any ideas how to convert?

Grains in a 10 ml dose? I think you would first need to know how many milligrams per milliliter and then go from there.


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[dagambd]

1 grain has 65 milligrams.


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[dagambd]

Took the time to calculate the dosage for a 200 pound man. If I use a vial of deca dosed at 200 mg/ml you would need 88 ml. And that?s per week! I did the math twice and I make these types of calculations all the time. I could be wrong but I don?t think so. I rarely if ever see grains used anymore so I?m surprised the author used that form of measurement. It also could be that ?gr? does not mean grains.


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[solidassears]

1 grain has 65 milligrams.


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I found that too, now to find out how many mg or Decca in a 1ML dose. According to the vials I have some 250 and some 300 mg/ml so if I use 3 grains X 90 kg = 270 grains X 65 = 17,550 mg / 250 = 70 ML using the Decca 250 using the Decca 300 you would need 58.5 ML! 6 vials a week can't be right.. seems way wrong to me, but what do I know? Where is my math wrong?

I'm wondering too if it's a misprint or mistake; 3 gr per kg is a lot of anything!

 

[dagambd]

I found that too, now to find out how many mg or Decca in a 1ML dose. According to the vials I have some 250 and some 300 mg/ml so if I use 3 grains X 90 kg = 270 grains X 65 = 17,550 mg / 250 = 70 ML using the Decca 250 using the Decca 300 you would need 58.5 ML! 6 vials a week can't be right.. seems way wrong to me, but what do I know? Where is my math wrong?

I'm wondering too if it's a misprint or mistake; 3 gr per kg is a lot of anything!

Had the same calculations.


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[solidassears]

I think it should be 3 mg per kg; take a look at this post:

I found this quite interesting:


How to Increase Collagen Synthesis
While injecting test increases protein syntesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.
Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.
Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen syn while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.
Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.
You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.
Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.
While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.
To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagensyn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.
Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood
Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.
Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.
These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:
Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days
Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.
GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.
Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

 

[dagambd]

Is why growth hormone is the ?fountain of youth?, it promotes collagen synthesis and not only makes you feel younger but look younger as well. I?ve been running a small dose of deca for a while now for the same reasons listed in the article but based on a different explanation of why I should. I would like to see the studies to back up the article. Grains was way off. I actually commented to the article but I don?t think it listed. Op probably doesn?t follow it anymore anyway. If I remember correctly article was from 2015? 17? Again, probably not following.


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[solidassears]

Is why growth hormone is the ?fountain of youth?, it promotes collagen synthesis and not only makes you feel younger but look younger as well. I?ve been running a small dose of deca for a while now for the same reasons listed in the article but based on a different explanation of why I should. I would like to see the studies to back up the article. Grains was way off. I actually commented to the article but I don?t think it listed. Op probably doesn?t follow it anymore anyway. If I remember correctly article was from 2015? 17? Again, probably not following.


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I think you're right. In any case, I'm going to bump up the Decca a bit.

 

[REHH]

Yes 3mg/kg seems right