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Self Intro of my training history & why I got into it.

Johnnny

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Intro part one (not to cause long posts)

I've been to a couple of bodybuilding discussion forums already. But they weren't as good as this one or full of mature ppl like this forum has. I've been reading through a few things. They let certain ppl insult others when it's uncalled for & they kickout the person who's being dissed which I think stinks. I believe in getting along with everyone even if we don't always agree with certain opinions. Just because we don't like someone's opinion, doesn't mean we should insult them. This site seems like it's much better & you're allowed to talk about adult topics which you weren't in these 2 sites. Anyway enough about that.

I'm 26yrs old & work for a big computer company doing a lot of Photoshop stuff while taking Photoshop night courses to better my knowledge. Up until I was 16yrs old I was what many would classify as a porker. At 14yrs old in grade 8 I was 5ft 8inches tall & weighed almost 220 with a 42inch waist & a small, narrow weak body. I only had 2 or 3 friends & girls wouldn't give me the time of day. The girls either just laughed at me or played mean jokes pretending to like me & then making a fool of me. Except for this one cutie of a girl who said she had feelings for me, but I didn't believe it & ignored her because I thought she was trying to play a mean joke on me like her friends were. I eventually ended up dating her.


I started training because I loved football & was badly rejected when I tried out in grade 9 the following fall. One day my 2 friends & I were talking about how cool it would be to play for our highschool. They suggested that I try out in grade 9 (1993) because they thought I was big & would make it. To my surprise I was rejected after the first 5mins I walked on the field. The coach & some of the other players laughed at me & told me to get my fat, small a$$ed self off the field. They thought I was there for the equipment manager job.


I told my 2 buddies what happened they felt bad for me. We decided that we were going to start working out to get bigger, stronger, & faster so we could play. So we started reading bodybuilding magazines to learn more about dieting & training. We eventually joined the gym near by. They weren't fat so they started weights right away. The first 2 or 3 months I focused on getting a proper diet & losing my fat.
It took awhile but I lost most of it & joined them with the weights.

We were instructed by the trainers due to our young age & not wanting to stunt our growth in height to train only 4 days a week & doing only basic compound movements with no squats as they can stunt height growth, just some leg press & hamstring curls. By the end of the summer of 1993 we changed our bodies greatly. I was almost 16yrs old & weighed about 180lbs with descent definition & a 36 inch waist.


part 2 (shorter posts)

By the next fall going into grade 10 in 1994/95 we were in great shape for 15/16yr old kids. One of my 2 friends was 6ft2 inches & weighed 260lbs with an offensive linemen's shape, he made offensive tackle. The 2nd friend was 6ft tall & weighed 185lbs & made wide receiver. I made kick returner. I was trying for running back but they had a guy who was a senior in grade 11 & was more experienced. With 2 or 3 games left in the year out of 12 the starting running back went out with an ankle injury & the coach put me in. In the last 3 games I rushed for around 350yards & 2 touchdowns. We went into the playoffs & I still played the RB postition & did resonably well. I averaged 3 touch downs a game. We won the championship that year. The coach however told me that if I wanted to keep my job for my senior year next year, I'd need to gain some serious mass, strength/power, & speed.

We eventually made more friends from playing football. We all trained at the gym now together. A several of the guys on the team started taking juice but the 3 of us stayed natural. We just started eating more protein & complex carbs. We all gained about 10lbs more in that year from eating & hard training. The guys who where on juice gained about 20lbs & alot more power & speed. But I guess 190lbs with a 34inch waist at 5ft 9inches isn't bad for a 17yr old. We had a great year & one another championship. I had almost 1000yards & 6 touchdowns that year. Halfway through the year I turned 18yrs old & was in grade 11. I was getting more attention from girls now that I was looking good but I rejected them because they were the same ones who did mean jokes & lauged at me in grade 8 except for that one girl I mentioned came to me & said she still wanted & not because of how I looked. She was my first girlfriend, she to was turing 18 about a 2 months after I did.

I was going to have to play city league football as the junior college we were attending was too cheap to have a team. I still knew it would be competitive & I was going to need more mass/power & speed to start as a rookie on the new team. I upped my food intake to 6 meals a day including 4 servings of carbs. I managed to get to about 200lbs. This new team rotated me & a veteran guy who was about 5ft11 & weighed 230lbs but it was his last year on the team as he was going to university the following year. I rushed for about 800yards & 6 touchdowns even though I was starting completely.


Self intro part 3:

I knew I needed even more mass for the next year which I would be 20yrs old. I upped my meal intake to 7 a day including 5 servings of carbs a day. By this time my 2 original friends were also much bigger & starting. The OT was now 6ft4 & weighed almost 300lbs obviously not ripped but with an offensive linemen's shape & the wide receiver friend was now 6ft3inches & weighed 205lbs. It took a year but I got to about 212lbs & gained speed as well. The following year got the starting job with the city league team & we won the championship. I was only planning on playing 1 more year as I was finishing 2yr college & going to university & would have no time. I started taking whey protein & upped my meals to as much as 8 a day including 6 servings of carbs & 3 whey shakes a day.


I've always trained natural believe it or not because I have a slight heart defect nothing serious & am currently being treated for thyroid dysfunction which I'll get to. I managed to get to about 225lbs at 5ft 9inches & 34inch waist with okay defintion & descent power. Later that year I started taking fatburners & ephedrine caffeine & aspirin stack to get a little more cut. Turned out to be a bad mistake as it caused hyper thyroid dysfunction & lost almost 30lbs in a little over a month & was very sick & tired all the time. I couldn't even bench 200lbs. It's now been 4yrs with treatment I recently just had Iodine treatment to shut down the thyroid & they have now replaced it with synthroids (man mande thyroid hormone). But when I had my Iodine treatment I gained bodyfat that the doctor said I probably would. But now as my throid is more normal the fat is starting to come off. I still were a 34 pants & weigh 215lbs. I still have good shape in my upper & lower body. It's just mostly my stomach that's the problem, but I know when you have some fat on your stomach, you have it everwhere. But I can still see some of the veins in my arms, shoulders, chest & wings but they aren't as thick as they used to be.

I was also doing grappling/submission for the past year & a half but I hurt my left knee twice in 6 months & quit as I don't want to risk permanent knee damage but I did learn a lot of submission/grappling techniques. I apologize for the long posts but now my intro & how I got into training is done. My future post won't be as long. Take care everybody.

What do you think of my training history?
 
Thanks. This site seems better than a couple of other ones I've been to that let ppl insult others when it's uncalled for. I just want to get along with everyone & give my knowledge & opinions on non training related issues. I personally don't like insulting ppl, I think it's immature & a waste of time. We are all here for the same reason, to get advice on training techniques & diet & discuss other entertaining issues. That's all I want & what I'm here for.
 
This place is the best Ive seen on the net, bar none. Its a very family like atmosphere and you actually become friends with many of the people on the board.

Welcome, and any questions, dont hesitate.
 
Thanks guys. This seems to be one of the best sites I've been to so far. Like I said I've been to a couple of other sites that allow ppl to isnult other ppl left, right & center. One guy even got kicked out because he defended himself verbally to other ppl's BS insults that aren't needed. This looks like a site that doesn't tolerate it. I'm just here to give my knowledge on training & dieting & other entertaining or serious topics of discussion. I'm not here to insult anyone. I want to get along with everyone. Although I may offer constructive criticism, so no one should take my replies or opinions offensively. I'm not here for that, only here for the complete opposite reasons. Thanks ppl. Take care.
 
Hi and welcome :thumb:

You come to the right place, lots of good advice and the members are friendly :)
 
Welcome :wave:
 
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Welcome to IM :thumb:
 
BTW, squats wont stunt your growth ;)
 
PreMier yes squats can stunt your height growth. The trainers told me not to start doing them or a full bodybuilding routine until I got a bit older as I was only 16yrs old & still developing.
 
Sorry to say, but the trainers were full of shit. Research it a bit, the only thing proven to prematurely close off growth plates is testosterone. Hence why using anabolics while younger is a nono.
 
But doing a lot of training especially squats & deadlifts increase natural testosterone production as well as natural GH levels. These trainers were local bodybuilders one who weighed 245lbs ripped at just 5ft10 & the was 6ft tall weighing 255lbs ripped
obviously on juice but they still knew what they were talking about as they at the time were training for 20yrs. They themselves didn't do full routines including squats when they were 16 or 17yrs old. & they waited until 19yrs old to start their anabolics. They had a couple of friends who started doing full routines including squats & deadlifts at 16yrs old & they only grew to 5f6 & 5ft7 while both of their parents were taller than them. Yeah there are some sites that'll say doing full workout routines won't stunt growth, but I believe ppl who it's happened to. I'm only 5ft9 & both of my parents are slightly taller than me. I'd hate to think how short I would've been if I hadn't listened to those 2 trainers. But I can't convince everyone. It's your bodies, do what you will I tried.
 
My trainers at the Muay-Thai training camp had me squatting from the age of 12, i'm now 23 and 6ft3, only way squats affected my growth was to give me powerful quads built like tree trunks, they start everyone early on power lifting routines at the training school here and i doubt any of them have had their growth stunted, most people average at 5ft10 to 6ft in our training camp, there is the occasional short person but think that's more to do with the height they grew too rather than squatting young.
 
Well whatever. I can't convince everybody. Maybe you could've been taller. Most of the football players under 18yrs old were told not to do full routines or squats/deadlifts as your height growth could be affected negatively. I guess some will have different opinions on this. All I know is what I was taught, & many other ppl I know were taught the same thing.
 
Hey Johnny! Welcome to IM :wave2: .


So, when you lost all the weight- how'd you do it???

And, whatever happened to the one cute little girl?
 
Well, there is obviously no point in arguing. Mr.Attitude knows the truth ;)
I started squatting at 16, along with heavy deadlifts, and powercleans. I am now 5'8" and taller than both my parents.
 
JOHNNNY I FOUND U.
turbo from BB4U forums... haha Johnny got kicked out for being an idiot.

youll all find that out shortly and that he likes to make stuff upJOHNNNY I FOUND U.
 
digital_ripper0 keep it up & you maybe the one who gets banned from here.
 
hey Johnny...sorry hou had som much troubles...you seem like a cool person....more power to ya man....keep it real dawg
 
Not cool. Leave the guy alone. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion. Even with lifting. I don't think one routine can work for everybody. He posts what works for him, doesn't mean you agree with it or would do it, but at least he's lifting. We're all here to better ourselves.
 
Hey johnny,

I was really moved by your intro. Great job buddy! So your into grappling eh?

Keep up the great work man!:teeth:
 
Why do so many peeps have their first post in this thread? This is wierd... Maybe Johnnny has a multiple personality disorder :shrug:
 
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