Steroids aren't harmful at all

[Powermaster]

I have had gynecomastia, acne, high blood pressure, elevated liver enzymes, elevated RBC's, Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, increased aggression, low sex drive, poor cholesterol, etc.

You can get many or all of the same from smoking, drinking, & eating poorly...yet those are legal, socially acceptable, & even in some circles frowned apon if you are NOT abusing the smoking, drinking, & eating poorly habits.

 

[ctr10]

you guys rock

 

[heavyiron]

You can get many or all of the same from smoking, drinking, & eating poorly...yet those are legal, socially acceptable, & even in some circles frowned apon if you are NOT abusing the smoking, drinking, & eating poorly habits.

True, but after years of steroid abuse its obvious my side effects were from steroids because my food and alcohol choices remain essentially the same. When I withdraw or significantly lower the steroids the side effects diminish. I would rather admit this than ignore or explain away the potential side effects from steroids. My hope is that we can be fair and balanced on how we promote these medications.

 

[bigbenj]

I would gladly have an intelligent, respectful conversation.
But recently, these anti-steroid crusaders pop up on here, condemning everyone, instead of respectfully voicing their opinions. Then I just lose it lol

 

[fireazm]

finally

someone who knows the truth

 

[suprfast]

I would gladly have an intelligent, respectful conversation.
But recently, these anti-steroid crusaders pop up on here, condemning everyone, instead of respectfully voicing their opinions. Then I just lose it lol

That is because they haven't had any funerals to attend lately.

 

[bigbenj]

I would love to take an AK and mow down all the people in that picture.

 

[suprfast]

I would love to take an AK and mow down all the people in that picture.

BJ is in the back walking away. You see that?

 

[Powermaster]

True, but after years of steroid abuse its obvious my side effects were from steroids because my food and alcohol choices remain essentially the same. When I withdraw or significantly lower the steroids the side effects diminish. I would rather admit this than ignore or explain away the potential side effects from steroids. My hope is that we can be fair and balanced on how we promote these medications.

All true but several important differences: with the proper guidance from someone such as yourself who's had years of experience and is very knowledgeable, most or all of the side effects can be mitigated even while using, and steroids have not been proven addictive.

 

[bigbenj]

BJ is in the back walking away. You see that?

muhahahaha.

going home to see how many more negs he got on IM

 

[heavyiron]

All true but several important differences: with the proper guidance from someone such as yourself who's had years of experience and is very knowledgeable, most or all of the side effects can be mitigated even while using.

I realize this. I made this point earlier in the thread.

 

[bjg]

the article implied indirectly that steroids should not be taken just for fun..it is for therapeutic reasons and with therapeutic doses prescribed by doctors which is lets say Deca durabolin for example( using this because i know of a doctor prescribing this for pro athletes) and the doses where around 50-100mg a week not a day! and judging from the threads i see the therapeutic dosage is well exceeded and well in the danger zone.

 

[njc]

You can get many or all of the same from smoking, drinking, & eating poorly...yet those are legal, socially acceptable, & even in some circles frowned apon if you are NOT abusing the smoking, drinking, & eating poorly habits.

That's some malformed logic. What you are saying is that since smoking, eating, and drinking poorly is socially acceptable then AAS are not potentially harmful?

I mean dont get me wrong, I use AAS. But I dont do so because people smoke and drink. That has nothing to do with anything. It may be relevant towards a debate of legality....but it has nothing to do with whether or not steroids or good or bad for you.

 

[Powermaster]

judging from the threads i see the therapeutic dosage is well exceeded and well in the danger zone.

Problem is the "danger zone" hasn't been well defined other than a few relatively mild and often exaggerated side effects.

There are way more pharmaceutical drugs that have less positive effects with way more potential negative effects even if taken at prescribed dosages.

Also, no one here has ever suggested usage of hormones to anyone not old enough or lacking in proper research.

 

[Powermaster]

That's some malformed logic. What you are saying is that since smoking, eating, and drinking poorly is socially acceptable then AAS are not potentially harmful?

I mean dont get me wrong, I use AAS. But I dont do so because people smoke and drink. That has nothing to do with anything. It may be relevant towards a debate of legality....but it has nothing to do with whether or not steroids or good or bad for you.

No that's not what I'm saying...

 

[njc]

No that's not what I'm saying...

Oh, sorry then lol

 

[Growth]

True, but after years of steroid abuse its obvious my side effects were from steroids because my food and alcohol choices remain essentially the same. When I withdraw or significantly lower the steroids the side effects diminish. I would rather admit this than ignore or explain away the potential side effects from steroids. My hope is that we can be fair and balanced on how we promote these medications.

Heavy, when you had the elevations you listed was that while on a heavy cycle? And you're saying when you cruise or come off they return to a baseline?

 

[MovinWeight]

this article cheered me up. i will be mainlining my tren this afternoon because it sounds perfectly harmless! then MF rage at the gym!

 

[wraggejxk]

lol

 

[maxamize]

If you ain't cheating you ain't trying
This has been an sweet thread to read

 

[heavyiron]

Heavy, when you had the elevations you listed was that while on a heavy cycle? And you're saying when you cruise or come off they return to a baseline?

Yes