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Test P, Tren A + Mast....sleeping better, no sides, and acne clearing up...

colorado75

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Hi Guys -

My stats:
37 yo
5'11
199 lbs
Bf 11%
Working out for the past 15 years with some breaks (running, weights, etc.)

I'm on my 4th cycle (cutting cycle), 3 weeks in:
1-10 test propionate 75 mg day
2-9 trenbolone ace 50 mg day
1-10 mast propionate 75 mg day
2-10 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
2-8 caber .5 mg e3d
3-12 HCG - 500ius week


Couple questions -


1) I have not felt any sides yet on Tren A....last time on Tren E I felt sides within a few days = sweating during the day, mild anxiety, bad night sweats, insomnia (odd, as it was long acting) - have not felt any sides yet though. Do you think this is because Masteron is helping with the sides? If so, can anybody explain the science as to why this would be?

2) I have not slept well in 8 months (3 months on cycle, 1 month PCT, 4 months off).....the last within a few days of starting Test Prop and Mast I was sleeping like a baby. Is mast known to help with sleep?

3) Tren, Test, and Masteron are all said to cause acne...over the past 4 months I have not been on cycle and my back acne has been
terrible...since going on Master/Test 2 weeks ago and then Tren last week my back acne has almost gone away....odd again....any idea as to why/how ths could be?
 
i can see that as a possibility since mast does take care of a lot of the estrogen sides. i think a lot of times ppl confuse tren sides with test->estrogen sides. also i'm seeing info indicating that progesterone or prolactin sides are less of an issue in the abscence of high estrogen, so in controlong the estrogen, the claim is that you also reduce progesterone or prolactin sides. not sure to what extent this is true but if it is it could explain why you feel better on mast.

Winnnie also is reported to have some estrogen conrtolling properties and a similar thing happened to me when i brought it on board during my last cycle. and then things--BP, insomnia--breifly got worse again when i ran out of winnie a wk before then of my cycle. i didn't start my tren until 6 wks into my cycle and i was aready having bad insomnia, flucuating blood pressure way before i started the tren. i added the winnie a wk after starting the tren and very soon bp went down, insomnia improved a little (and i grew like crazy and was getting ripped at the same time).

And this is why i'm sold on winnie with every cycle and why i'm adding mast to my next cycle, to feel better and hopefully sleep better on cycle.
 
I'm currently running almost the same cycle...I'm just about 5 weeks in...and am seeing awesome results.

150mg Test prop EOD
120mg tren ace EOD
120mg Mast EOD


I still get tren sides...night sweats, some anxiety, and some moderate insomnia. I ALWAYS feel like I'm hot...

I have some mild acne..but nothing crazy.

Some other thoughts...I don't take an AI with test prop...Unless you know you need you may want to consider dropping it. Don't foregt that Mast also has anti-e poperties too. Your caber dosage is pretty high..over 1g/week. I cap my doage at .75mg/week..I may even lower it. I don't think your quite in the danger zone but caber has some serious side effects at higher dosages..so why take a chance?
 
I am on a similar cycle

100 prop ED
100mast ED
50 tren ED
125 sust ED

I do get tren mean. I keep the dose low. I think heavy tren loads are a bad idea for most that are not active competitors.

My load is a little heaver. I get night sweats here and there after the first week of getting it everynight.

I do get increased spot acne on my shoulders and upper arms from this combo

I also sleep a little better. although I fell as though I am interupted more often(sweats, hungry, piss)

how is your libido. this is and the night sweats always my first tell. I have done this cycle without acne, and without sleep issues.But If im not constantly thinking about sex and Im not sweating somethings up. tren has a very bad taste. no aas taste good if you place a drop on your tongue but tren is bad.
 
As for acne I broke out on my cruise and as soon as I started to blast again and go to 50mg of Proviron ed I cleared up like a champ. I tend to stay clear as long as my estradiol stays low and my test is high. I normally do not break out unless i fuck up my test. Like if on Prop and miss consistency.
 
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