This is a great question, no matter how many times it comes up. I had the same questions a few years back. I did a ton of research and came to the conclusion that I would run Tren E at a 2:1 ratio over Test Cyp (or Test E). From what I was reading, this would make the Tren more effective. Well, it certainly does work. Looking back, this was probably my best blast ever, BUT....(keep reading)..
**DISCLAIMER** - One does not achieve great results with gear, alone. Great results are 75% Diet & Working out; and 25% (High Quality) Gear.
Reason I bring that up is because I was running good gear, but I was on a super strict diet. Not only was this done to lose burn fat, lose weight, and cut up.. It was also done to combat a potentially major side effect from Tren E, high blood pressure.
When i started planning out this blast, I planned on it being 18 weeks, which is significantly long. Mainly, this was because I was also running Primo Enanthate. In my experience, the magic from Primobolan Enanthate starts to happen around week 9 or 10. Here's a snap shot of my blast:
- - 300mg Test Cyp/500mg Tren E/700mg Primo E - - per week (Goodbye 3 mL pins and hello 5mL pins)
I started Primo and Test Cyp for 1st 4 weeks, before adding the Tren E. I was aiming for the Primo and the Tren effects to start kicking in simultaneously. I have to admit it worked out extremely well. My plan was to run the Tren E from week 5 until week 15. Then, I would run only Test & Primo thru week 18. Then, Test Cyp only (while starting PCT), weeks 19 & 20.
I was extremely happy with the results of this blast. Regarding what you could physically see, I got exactly what I wanted. Second, I got great results in the gym, as strength went way up. Lastly, I accomplished shedding fat and dropped just over 20lbs in first 2 months, but did gain back 6lbs (of what I believe to be muscle) by the end of the blast. I retained hardly any water thru this whole blast, which was also important to me.
Now, what I didn't plan on, were exactly how harsh side effects from the (extremely powerful) Tren E. They were brutal enough, when i was experiencing sever night sweats and irritability. Around week 13ish, my hair started falling out. By week 15, it was getting noticeable. Had a small bald spot on the center of dome. It would fall out, all over my desk at work. So, I decided to cut my blast short, between week 15 & 16, and drop the Tren and Primo. I ran Test only for the next 2 weeks alone before tapering off and doing PCT. My hair continued to fall out, but it slowed down over the course of a few weeks before stopping all together. After a few months, my hair grew back and was back to normal.
So, looking back.. and with direct regards to your question: I will only run a ratio of 1 to 1. Never again will I run lower Test than Tren. Ever.
Hope this helps..
