The Perfect Tren Cyle for Novices

[OMEGAx]

Is not just Test Prop + Tren
Also Pinning eod causes radical peaks and troughs in blood values and side effect like insomnia and sweat become more common.

For Best result PIN everyday

The reason Why Test + Tren is a bad cycle is because evidence shows that Test ran above HRT doses causes collagen breakdown in males.
This on top of the radical strength gains Tren Causes is a recipe for injury disaster.

So the logical idea is to run Deca right?
WRONG Deca ran with Tren will cause you to grow boobies that no AI will help.

So we have 3 options to solve this riddle to strengthen collegen and your body to grow safely along side your Test and Tren and create the perfect Tren cycle.

1 Anavar
2 HGH
3 Equipoise

I personally favor Anavar since its an oral and works right away ( bio-availability immediately) to piggy back unto the fast acting Prop and Tren Ace your using anyway.

Where to get this cycle?
Here!:

4 packages OX Orals - OXANDROLONE (Anavar) - 10mg/tab 50 Tabs Euro-Pharmacies

4 bottle Tren Ace UGL Injectables - Trenbolone Acetate - 100mg/ml 10ml/vial EP UGL

4 bottle Test Prop UGL Injectables - Testosterone Propionate - 100mg/ml 10ml/vial EP UGL

Run 60 mgs a day of Test Prop
Run 60 mgs a day of Tren Ace
Run 30 mgs a day of Var

All for roughly 70 days

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

I like it brother, Pinning is easy so ED injects is like a dream if you dont mind pinning.

 

[OMEGAx]

Thanks my friend! pinning ed makes huge positive difference!


ps for the vets We could easily double the dose for the big guys

 

[FordFan]

good info here!

 

[bigbenj]

as soon as you guys pick me for the contest, Ill gladly run this

 

[OMEGAx]

haha

 

[Pitbull44]

I am saving this for when I run my first tren cycle.. Good post and thank you Omega!

 

[OMEGAx]

your welcome!

Sir

 

[ordawg1]

Very nice indeed-OD

 

[BigMuffin]

I ordered the prop/tren combo but instead of var I ordered D-Bol instead. Is there a big difference or anything negative about using D-Bol instead of var. Right now my weight is 215lbs at 16%bf. I will drop my weight to around 185 with hopefully 12%BF by the time I start my next cycle which in in exacly 10 weeks. So cut for now and body recomp later.

Intermediate Cycles

The Wam Bam Thank You Mam!
This cycle, incorporates two different quick acting injectables, and a mass boosting oral, This cycle will put quick gains on you, and give you a huge strength increase.

The Cycle
1-8 Test Propionate 100mg/eod
1-8 Tren Ace 75mg/eod
1-5 Dbol 50mg/ed
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg/eod ( Z doesn't have this yet )
1-8 Cabergoline .5mg Twice Weekly ( Z doesn't have this yet )

PCT
9 Clomid 100mg/ed
10-11 Clomid 75mg/ed
12 Clomid 50mg/ed

What You Need
Test Propionate 100mg/ml - 10ml Vial x 3 Vials
Tren Acetate 100mg/ml - 10ml Vial x 3 Vials
Dbol 10mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 3 packs
Clomid 50mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 1 pack

Any Recommendations?

 

[rocco0218]

I would run caber 3 times a week.

 

[OMEGAx]

D-Bol instead. Is there a big difference or anything negative about using D-Bol instead of var.

Any Recommendations?

YES with Dbol no Collegen Sythesis

only, HGH......equipoise..........Var.........Primo and deca help

Primo the least , I also DONT LIKE eq............SO HERE ALL THATS LEFT IS IS VAR AND HGH.

if you dont use one, you open yourself up to injury

 

[BigMuffin]

Advice taken OMEGAx.

 

[flexxthese]

For both cycles posted here, I have a question. I thought the new common method of running test and tren was always use a higher dosage of tren, and a minimal/maintenance (even as low as 200-250mg/week) of test. Do you not believe in this method or just not versed in it?

 

[OMEGAx]

yes Test above Hrt doses in males leads to collagen degradation

young guys can get away with it, but after a couple of runs you feel it ..........so one must take preventative measures and use pro collagen compounds vibrantly and methodically

this is true cycling

the compounds that truly do this are hgh, eq, var, and deca.
Primo as well but only mildly

With Tren I believe var is the best option since eq takes too long, deca = sides with tren, hgh takes too long as well

If you run just tren with test, in time it will catch up with you
you guys need to realize tren is on paper multiple times more potent then Test so when you are lifting Demon weights whats going on with your joints?

 

[robbiek426]

Lol @ lifting demon weights! I like the sound of that!

 

[flexxthese]

yes Test above Hrt doses in males leads to collagen degradation

young guys can get away with it, but after a couple of runs you feel it ..........so one must take preventative measures and use pro collagen compounds vibrantly and methodically

this is true cycling

the compounds that truly do this are hgh, eq, var, and deca.
Primo as well but only mildly

With Tren I believe var is the best option since eq takes too long, deca = sides with tren, hgh takes too long as well

If you run just tren with test, in time it will catch up with you
you guys need to realize tren is on paper multiple times more potent then Test so when you are lifting Demon weights whats going on with your joints?

Still doesn't touch on my question

 

[OMEGAx]

no do not run Tren Higher then Test unless you want the Libido of a Dafadile

 

[flexxthese]

no do not run Tren Higher then Test unless you want the Libido of a Dafadile

Is this personal experience? Quite a few members of imag, including some z guys I believe follow this method and reported back with great results. I have no heard of any libido problems with it until your post.

 

[OMEGAx]

each board has its 'vogue'

bro

 

[prime time]

I will be running a 10 week cycle that looks like this

weeks 1 - 8 500mg test e , 200mg tren e

weeks 9-10 500mg test e

I read that novla is not a good choice for pct when useing tren. does anyone have any advice for pct with doses for this cycle?

 

[OMEGAx]

Use Clomid from Z and Exemstane from a good supplier

Z will have it soon

 

[bmw]

Is this personal experience? Quite a few members of imag, including some z guys I believe follow this method and reported back with great results. I have no heard of any libido problems with it until your post.

depends on the results you want. If you're using tren most likely you want to "cut", so I would keep test lower like you said. That's from personal experience btw...lots of it.

 

[J.thom]

excellent post/thread

 

[OMEGAx]

excellent post/thread

thanky!

 

[OMEGAx]

You know i see Old School has dbol, I suppose that would be good too since dbol does increase IGF ( though only for a short time)

If you spaced the Dbol just on workout days I suppose you can stretch that out ( the IGF effect)

I dont have references written down but I promosie I am not pulling these facts out of thin air.

though I do have a new note book thats starting to keep track1

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

I agree with some things for sure, But I am currently running tren higher than my test for the first time, and I have to tell you brother, Try it! I wouldn't recommend doing so with Deca, but so far my libido is INSANE, and the sides I generally get from tren, have not accord. some sweating, but the insomnia very manageable. I feel rejuvenated.!

The again I have been running tren for many years with test being higher, with great results as well. So I have to give it up for both ways, But I wouldn't start off with tren higher until you know how you react.

 

[flexxthese]

I agree with some things for sure, But I am currently running tren higher than my test for the first time, and I have to tell you brother, Try it! I wouldn't recommend doing so with Deca, but so far my libido is INSANE, and the sides I generally get from tren, have not accord. some sweating, but the insomnia very manageable. I feel rejuvenated.!

The again I have been running tren for many years with test being higher, with great results as well. So I have to give it up for both ways, But I wouldn't start off with tren higher until you know how you react.

Was hoping you'd chime in!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to OldSchoolLifter again

 

[OMEGAx]

I Yield the floor good Sir!

 

[OMEGAx]

ooooh i miscalculated! this is the 10 week run

Run 60 mgs a day of Test Prop
Run 60 mgs a day of Tren Ace
Run 30 mgs a day of Var