Underground Labs Methyl 1 Test Gains

[APG]

Hi everyone I am about to start a 4 week next week with Underground Labs Methyl 1 Test cycle. I have my PCT in place I will be taking milk thistle and Ergopharm 6 OXO post cycle.

My current stats
Weight 14st
Height 6ft
bf 22%

Biceps 16inc
Chest 45inc (unexpanded)

Best current lifts

Dead lift 220kg
Squat 140kg (to parallel)
Bench 150kg (Flat 1 second pause 1inc above chest)

My question is how much can I expect to gain in LBM and increase my max reps by?

Diet

It is only recently that I realised how little carbs I was taking in usually taking in about 150g and about 250g-300g of protein a day (not sure how much fat).

I have just ordered some chemical nutrition weight gainer and plan to take four shakes a day each giving 35g P and 52g C. I am aiming to get 350g P each day and 400g C each day, how much fat should I be taking, I am currently taking 2 Flax seed capsules a day.

Thanks

 

[silencer]

I was told that taking 6oxo as pct is stupid if doing m1t. How old are you? I hope this is not another 16 year old posting...

 

[APG]

nope 24yr old dont want to take prescription drugs

 

[crazy_enough]

No prescription drugs??!! yure taking an illegal STEROID!(wishing there was a smilie banging his head on table or somthing!!!)

 

[Cold Iron]

No prescription drugs??!! yure taking an illegal STEROID!(wishing there was a smilie banging his head on table or somthing!!!)

 

[Cold Iron]

Hi everyone I am about to start a 4 week next week with Underground Labs Methyl 1 Test cycle. I have my PCT in place I will be taking milk thistle and Ergopharm 6 OXO post cycle.

My current stats
Weight 14st
Height 6ft
bf 22%

Biceps 16inc
Chest 45inc (unexpanded)

Best current lifts

Dead lift 220kg
Squat 140kg (to parallel)
Bench 150kg (Flat 1 second pause 1inc above chest)

My question is how much can I expect to gain in LBM and increase my max reps by?

Diet

It is only recently that I realised how little carbs I was taking in usually taking in about 150g and about 250g-300g of protein a day (not sure how much fat).

I have just ordered some chemical nutrition weight gainer and plan to take four shakes a day each giving 35g P and 52g C. I am aiming to get 350g P each day and 400g C each day, how much fat should I be taking, I am currently taking 2 Flax seed capsules a day.

Thanks

You need wayyy more fat, the good kind Two flax caps? They better not be the 1g ones....

6-oxo isnt suficient for m1t

What your dosage?

 

[Curlingcadys]

nope 24yr old dont want to take prescription drugs

PHew!! thank god you don't cause you don't want to put anything illegal in your body! Enjoy the tits buddy! Or giving "broke" a new name by trying to afford 6oxo taking it at the dosage you would need to, to ATTEMPT a decent pct period.

 

[Du]

Dump the 6-oxo and use nolva.

Unless you want some big ol titties.

 

[APG]

Sorry for any confusion caused but I am not taking a illegal steroid as I am from the Uk. I bought it off www.discount-suppliments.com. I only want to take PCT products that I can buy as a sports suppliements (ie legally). I am not keen on taking fertility or anti cancer drugs. Just want an idea of how much I can expect to gain in LBM and increases in my 1RM.

Thanks

 

[APG]

Ok take it from your replies that 6-oxo is not sufficient, are there any suppliments that I can combine instead of taking nolva? I intend to post my current pictures tonight. In terms of dosage what would you recommend?

 

[crazy_enough]

Steroids are legal in the UK?? Fuck it, Im moving! U should still have nolva on hand, unless u enjoy breasts so much u want a pair of ur own!

 

[Du]

I love tits, but I love nolva even more.

 

[simbh]

Ok take it from your replies that 6-oxo is not sufficient, are there any suppliments that I can combine instead of taking nolva? I intend to post my current pictures tonight. In terms of dosage what would you recommend?

Whether it is illegal or not is just a legal question . The fact of the matter is that m1t is an anabolic steroid . Doing 6-oxo for pct of m1t is EXTREMELY STUPID. In fact , you shouldn't do m1t is you're not going to take nolva as pct . NOLVA is the thing you should take as pct for m1t . If not , just foget about it. Do you know how stupid it is not wanting to have nolva when on m1t ? What if gyno appears ? Yes you are fucked if gyno appears . Plus 6-oxo is just not strong enough IMO for a pct for m1t . If you wanna go legal all the way , just do a 1-ad cycle which would be ok to have 6-oxo for pct.

 

[APG]

so if i don't want to take nolva or any prescription drug, is there no other way to combat 'bitch tits' if not I will chuck them away cost £10.99. Check out the web site under pro hormones.

 

[MTN WARRIOR]

People, you wont get gyno from M1t, it does not aromatize to estrogen. 2nd, 6OXO IS sufficient for M1t. I have used it multiple time going up to 20mg M1t/ED.

 

[crazy_enough]

so if i don't want to take nolva or any prescription drug, is there no other way to combat 'bitch tits' if not I will chuck them away cost £10.99. Check out the web site under pro hormones.

M1t isnt a PH....

 

[simbh]

so if i don't want to take nolva or any prescription drug, is there no other way to combat 'bitch tits' if not I will chuck them away cost £10.99. Check out the web site under pro hormones.

Other supplements on the market will do no good for gyno . And even if gyno doesn't appear , anything over the counter is not strong enough for a good pct . You will loose most of your gains , so why the fuck would you do a cycle if you're not going to keep your gains.

You obviously didn't research this before buying them . The smart thing would be not to use them until you know what you're dealing with . Until you realise nolva is essential.

 

[simbh]

M1t isnt a PH....

Right on , M1T is an anabolic steroid.

 

[Du]

People, you wont get gyno from M1t, it does not aromatize to estrogen. 2nd, 6OXO IS sufficient for M1t. I have used it multiple time going up to 20mg M1t/ED.

No M1T does not aromatize into estrogen. No risk for estrogen induced gyno while on cycle.

But there is a risk of progesterone induced gyno. A small risk, but a risk nonetheless.

Further, there is a huge risk of gyno in any cycle - POST CYCLE. Your estro levels are high as hell, you need a strong anti estro.

Where could you get off saying 6-oxo is safe enough? Just because you slid by without nolva? I thought you were more educated in PH/PS/AAS usage than that.

 

[Arnold]

I will be honest, I love M1T, but between the side effects and the water weight gain I am not even sure it is worth taking. When I am on a cycle of M1T it is great as far as weight gain, strength and recovery. However the side effects are awful and as soon as I get off I drop the majority of weight gain, so I assume that most of it is water.

just my $.02

 

[Du]

M1t isnt a PH....

Nope, its a full strength anabolic steroid. It just wasnt classified as such when "steroids" became illegal because it wasnt out yet.

But it is now.


Edit: Sorry, I re-read that.... now I know what you were sayin.

 

[simbh]

People, you wont get gyno from M1t, it does not aromatize to estrogen. 2nd, 6OXO IS sufficient for M1t. I have used it multiple time going up to 20mg M1t/ED.

You have to realise that jsut because it didn't happen for you that it will be the same for everyone else. Gyno can happen from m1t. If you don't believe me , talk to monstar . He did a 6-oxo pct which was obviously not enough in his case .

 

[crazy_enough]

Nope, its a full strength anabolic steroid. It just wasnt classified as such when "steroids" became illegal because it wasnt out yet.

But it is now.

I know, thats why my smillie is scratching the heck outta his head!!lolol
this dude's web site is classifying it under ph's!?

 

[simbh]

I know, thats why my smillie is scratching the ehck outta his head!!lolol
this dude's web site is classifying it under ph's!?

Ya , a lot of sites do that ... They'll put prohormones as a categorie and they'll put everything in there ... 1-ad , m1t , 1-t etc.

 

[simbh]

And why would someone not take nolva , that is my question . It's so cheap compared to damn 6-oxo and is a hell of a lot better in term of estrogen blocking.

 

[Du]

I will be honest, I love M1T, but between the side effects and the water weight gain I am not even sure it is worth taking. When I am on a cycle of M1T it is great as far as weight gain, strength and recovery. However the side effects are awful and as soon as I get off I drop the majority of weight gain, so I assume that most of it is water.

just my $.02

I agree, the sides are harsh. What do you use for PCT, aside from AMRx?

Do you take 4-ad with it? That helps me.

As for water weight - In my experience, about 1/3 of my gain is water, but I keep the rest.

I still think its worth it and will continue to use it in the future.

 

[crazy_enough]

I agree, the sides are harsh. What do you use for PCT, aside from AMRx?

Do you take 4-ad with it? That helps me.

As for water weight - In my experience, about 1/3 of my gain is water, but I keep the rest.

I still think its worth it and will continue to use it in the future.

Speaking from a female perspective, and of course, after only about 2/3 of a first cycle, I have nothing but good things to say about m1t thus far. Ive seen other fbb(ok, I only know 3 of them, but still!!) keep about 3/4 of their gains post cycle.

 

[Arnold]

It is really funny because I was one of the first (at least on this board) to recommend using 4-AD with M1T and I remember everyone teling me it was not avised, now everyone says to use 4-AD with M1T.

I use 6-OXO, pretty high doses...the main reason is legality, of course now that M1T is illegal too I guess it does not matter.

 

[APG]

I can get Nolva, would this alone solve the Problem?

 

[simbh]

I can get Nolva, would this alone solve the Problem?

Yes , glad to hear you say that . Nolva would be the optimum choice , plus it would really be cheaper . You can get some here : www.inhousedrugstore.com
They will ship to the uk ... I bought some over there , I live in Canada and our customs are strick on that and still got it in no time without any problems.