Virgin cycle

[texdb]

I know this is a simple cycle that has probably been beaten to death here, but it would make me feel better if I wrote it out and got opinions.
My info:
40yo
204lbs
5ft 11in
BF 18%?
Goal: to put on some size of course

I've been working out hard for about 2 1/2 years now, and I think I'm ready. I need to do a little more planning on my diet, but I'll have that lined out in a couple days. Call me a pussy, but I want to run a test only cycle for the first time. I also want to front load prop. to get the party started. I've read until my eyes bled, and this is what I've come up with.

Cycle:
test prop-75mg eod wk 1-3
test e- 250mg sun & thurs wk 1-10
arimidex-.25mg ed wk 1-13
HCG 250iu e3d wk 1-13



PCT:
[FONT=&quot]clomid-50/50/25/25 wk 9-12
2-3g Vitamin C


I might up the prop to 100 eod depending on how I feel. I have Nolva on hand that I will run if needed. I also have Finistride that I'm thinking about using at 1.25mg eod. I don't have male pattern baldness, and want to keep it that way. What is your take on the Finistride? I shot about 5mg of prop earlier with a little gs oil just to make sure I wasn't going to have some kind of F'ed up reaction to it. So far so good. Well let's have your 2 cents.
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[.V.]

A little estrogen and a little DHT has some benefit to strength and muscle building. My suggestion is DON'T suppress them both completely.

Your AI, good to have on hand just in case but really, older guys like you and I have been exposed to testosterone for most of our lives so there is a good chance that you aromatase won't cause too much of a problem for you.

Good to have it on hand just in case though. If you start getting puffy nipples...use it.

HCG, opinions vary on this. But in my experience it's suppressive of natural testosterone in and of it's self... I'd stop it one or two weeks before your cycle ends. Maybe after week 8 or 9.

Start your PCT 2 weeks after your last shot of test.

I see you've been reading though and have the right idea and knew up front to get everything on hand that you will need ahead of time. This is refreshing.

 

[texdb]

Are you suggesting that I not use the Arimidex unless I show signs? Or just not use it with finistride? Or adjust dosages? Sorry, I'm a little dense sometimes.

 

[texdb]

Come on guys I need some feedback. Even dissenting opinions are welcome!

 

[sxracer]

Come on guys I need some feedback. Even dissenting opinions are welcome!

Base cycle looks good. Very simple, very clean.
Maybe do the A-dex .5mg E3d. (That is what I run at that does of test)
I also like the HCG ..... looks good.
Keep in mind HCG can spike estrogen more than anything else.

You best bet is to get your E2 (Estradiol) checked when you start the cycle, and about 4 weeks in. That will give you an idea of how you respond to it, and if more/less is needed. (EVERYONE responds differently to A-dex) Some need a lil, some need a lot. Also depends on the quality of the product you are using. I like to keep mine under 40. Range is about 18-50.

I am about your age ... and I always monitor E2. No way I want titties !

And if you wait until they start to form ... IMHO, t is too late, and some damage is already done.

Good luck ... be safe!

 

[texdb]

I've been reading some more, and I'm confused as to weather I should be front loading prop for 2 or 4 weeks. I put 3 in my cycle plan, but I'm questioning myself again. What are your thoughts.

On a side note: I've seen ZERO libido increase the last week on prop. Everything still works like it should. Also, something is causing mild to bad constant heartburn. That and the fact that I feel like I've been shot with a .22 at every prop inj. site, I'M GREAT!

 

[texdb]

WOW, nobody posts here. I guess I'll keep everything in the Anabolic Zone.

 

[heavyiron]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/104658-first-cycle-pct.html

 

[texdb]

That was one of the ones I found confusing. Ex. "The following graph demonstrates that testosterone cypionate peaks within 1-2 days after injection and falls off to almost baseline by day 10." From everything else I've read it takes two to four weeks using e or c to reach the correct levels. Which is the reason I'm front loading prop in the first place. It seems to me this quote is saying I'll reach correct levels in less than a week. If so I'm doing 800-900mg/wk.

 

[heavyiron]

That was one of the ones I found confusing. Ex. "The following graph demonstrates that testosterone cypionate peaks within 1-2 days after injection and falls off to almost baseline by day 10." From everything else I've read it takes two to four weeks using e or c to reach the correct levels. Which is the reason I'm front loading prop in the first place. It seems to me this quote is saying I'll reach correct levels in less than a week. If so I'm doing 800-900mg/wk.

Levels will continue to climb with every pin IF you shoot E or C more frequently then every 10 days. You can front load with long esters like Enanthate no problem but your plan with Prop is fine as well.