We should invent a new astrological system that includes such gems as "the douche" and infestedtarius. My turdalogical sign is the shit covered fist
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What is your Zodiac sign?
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Astrology is a very in depth system very unique to each individual person. It is infinitely more complicated than sun signs alone. Anybody interested in this divine science should get a free birth chart made up online. Just type in free birth chart at google or yahoo. FYI- Freud and Jung the two most renown psychologists ever were dedicated students and many sites in Washington DC have the Zodiac wheel engraved in its buildings.
The earth wobbles on an axis that takes 26,000 years to complete. This cycle which is known as "a great year" means that the zodiac signs are no longer synchronized with the calendar and people believe they are a particular star sign when in fact they are actually wrong.
We can still find our correct star sign however this info is hardly ever taken into consideration and people usually label themselves with a star sign that no longer represents them.
We can still find our correct star sign however this info is hardly ever taken into consideration and people usually label themselves with a star sign that no longer represents them.
What was that I heard? Countless people throwing their morning newspapers' horoscopes in the bin? Or was it the cries of disbelief by thousands of "head-strong" Leos complaining that they'd been reassigned to "home-making" duties as a Cancerian?
There's been a lot of noise today about the realization that astrology had lost its (non-existent) foundations in reality and that it might actually be a load of rubbish. Why? Well, with the help of Phil Plait over at Bad Astronomy, he managed to find the source of the controversy.
SLIDE SHOW: What Will the Constellations Look Like in 50,000 Years?
In an unassuming Jan. 9 StarTribune.com article, an astronomer and an astronomy teacher from the Minneapolis area were interviewed. Their opinions on astrology were printed and the general consensus was that astrology doesn't work. No surprises there.
This isn't news (in fact, it's really old news), but for some reason people paid attention to this particular article. The media went wild, astrologers felt compelled to write newsletters and science bloggers went for the jugular.
Back on Oct. 29, 2010, our very own astronomy contributor (and BBC astronomy presenter) Mark Thompson pointed out the reasons why the very basis of astrology is out of whack:
But according to astrologers there are 12 signs of the zodiac. Wrong! There are 13 signs of the zodiac; Ophiuchus is the 'new' one yet for some curious reason I have never come across an Ophiuchian!
Taking the concept of the signs of the zodiac, I was born in July which means that when I was born the sun was in Cancer. Wrong again. Originally yes, the sun would have been in Cancer when the star/sun charts were produced about 2000 years ago. But in reality, the wobble of the Earth on its axis -- which we call "precession" -- has led to them being all out of sync.
In fact, when I was born, way back in July 1973, the Sun was in Gemini. News Flash: you're all reading the wrong star signs! All those astrology columns you've read that seemed spot-on were a fluke. Surprising eh?
ANALYSIS: The Star of Bethlehem: Was it Jupiter?
As you may have guessed, this isn't a new development. The Earth's precession is always steadily skewing the position of the sun through the constellations in a cycle lasting 26,000 years. You may have been born under a certain sign, as it was 2,000 years ago, but since then the sun has shifted and you were really born under a different constellation. Yet, astrologers haven't worried about synchronizing their signs with the actual constellations.
And now -- hold onto your hats! -- there's a 13th constellation that, due to the skewing effect caused by the Earth's precession, should have its own sign. That constellation is called Ophiuchus, between Scorpio and Sagittarius.
Technically, the Sun passes through Ophiuchus, and in fact is in the constellation longer than it???s in Scorpius! But we don't include it in the zodiac for a couple of reasons; one is that the stars in it are pretty faint, while those of Scorpius are brighter and easier to recognize, and another is that we can???t have 13 constellations, can we? So poor Ophiuchus is sent off to hold his serpent by himself.
--Phil Plait, Bad Astronomy
If star signs are no longer in sync with the actual constellations, and technically there should be 13 signs of the zodiac and not the current 12, how can astrologers justify the validity of their practice?
They don't have to justify anything, after all, astrology isn't a science. It is a trust in some kind of higher power (i.e. magic) that we have to believe is there. So long as astrologers make vague predictions about people's lives, and there are believers who will pay for these predictions, modern astrology is going nowhere.
But as this little kerfuffle has shown, the zodiac has absolutely zero physical effect on our lives and it never has.
Just in case you want to know the "real" dates of astrological signs according to astronomers, here they are (courtesy of Live Science):
Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.
Pisces: March 11-April 18.
Aries: April 18-May 13.
Taurus: May 13-June 21.
Gemini: June 21-July 20.
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.
Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17.
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.
Source link:Your Star Sign Just Got Rumbled : Discovery News
There's been a lot of noise today about the realization that astrology had lost its (non-existent) foundations in reality and that it might actually be a load of rubbish. Why? Well, with the help of Phil Plait over at Bad Astronomy, he managed to find the source of the controversy.
SLIDE SHOW: What Will the Constellations Look Like in 50,000 Years?
In an unassuming Jan. 9 StarTribune.com article, an astronomer and an astronomy teacher from the Minneapolis area were interviewed. Their opinions on astrology were printed and the general consensus was that astrology doesn't work. No surprises there.
This isn't news (in fact, it's really old news), but for some reason people paid attention to this particular article. The media went wild, astrologers felt compelled to write newsletters and science bloggers went for the jugular.
Back on Oct. 29, 2010, our very own astronomy contributor (and BBC astronomy presenter) Mark Thompson pointed out the reasons why the very basis of astrology is out of whack:
But according to astrologers there are 12 signs of the zodiac. Wrong! There are 13 signs of the zodiac; Ophiuchus is the 'new' one yet for some curious reason I have never come across an Ophiuchian!
Taking the concept of the signs of the zodiac, I was born in July which means that when I was born the sun was in Cancer. Wrong again. Originally yes, the sun would have been in Cancer when the star/sun charts were produced about 2000 years ago. But in reality, the wobble of the Earth on its axis -- which we call "precession" -- has led to them being all out of sync.
In fact, when I was born, way back in July 1973, the Sun was in Gemini. News Flash: you're all reading the wrong star signs! All those astrology columns you've read that seemed spot-on were a fluke. Surprising eh?
ANALYSIS: The Star of Bethlehem: Was it Jupiter?
As you may have guessed, this isn't a new development. The Earth's precession is always steadily skewing the position of the sun through the constellations in a cycle lasting 26,000 years. You may have been born under a certain sign, as it was 2,000 years ago, but since then the sun has shifted and you were really born under a different constellation. Yet, astrologers haven't worried about synchronizing their signs with the actual constellations.
And now -- hold onto your hats! -- there's a 13th constellation that, due to the skewing effect caused by the Earth's precession, should have its own sign. That constellation is called Ophiuchus, between Scorpio and Sagittarius.
Technically, the Sun passes through Ophiuchus, and in fact is in the constellation longer than it???s in Scorpius! But we don't include it in the zodiac for a couple of reasons; one is that the stars in it are pretty faint, while those of Scorpius are brighter and easier to recognize, and another is that we can???t have 13 constellations, can we? So poor Ophiuchus is sent off to hold his serpent by himself.
--Phil Plait, Bad Astronomy
If star signs are no longer in sync with the actual constellations, and technically there should be 13 signs of the zodiac and not the current 12, how can astrologers justify the validity of their practice?
They don't have to justify anything, after all, astrology isn't a science. It is a trust in some kind of higher power (i.e. magic) that we have to believe is there. So long as astrologers make vague predictions about people's lives, and there are believers who will pay for these predictions, modern astrology is going nowhere.
But as this little kerfuffle has shown, the zodiac has absolutely zero physical effect on our lives and it never has.
Just in case you want to know the "real" dates of astrological signs according to astronomers, here they are (courtesy of Live Science):
Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.
Pisces: March 11-April 18.
Aries: April 18-May 13.
Taurus: May 13-June 21.
Gemini: June 21-July 20.
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.
Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17.
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.
Source link:Your Star Sign Just Got Rumbled : Discovery News
ok weird... tonight on the way to the store my son asked me what constellation was the serpent.
I'm assuming it's Ophiuchus, but I dont know too much about these things. According to the article above my sign has changed.
The "new" astrology is actually thousands and thousands years old. I knew of the sign Ophiuchus years ago and in sidereal astrology which is used throughout most of the Eastern world our signs go back one and changes... However, the chart if interpreted as a whole remains the same.
"Mr. Brezsny and other astrologers say they have long known that the pairings of constellations and astrological signs don’t match, but that Western astrologers don’t deal with stars — as some other branches of astrology do — but rather the planets and solar system.
“If they’re going to question its foundations,” he said in an e-mail, referring to scientific skeptics, “they should at least learn it well enough to know what they’re talking about.”
Mr. Brezsny said the argument that the zodiac was off kilter was old news but he was shocked how fast the Star Tribune article — inspired by a blog item on the LiveScience Web site — caught fire. "
It is what it is.
"Mr. Brezsny and other astrologers say they have long known that the pairings of constellations and astrological signs don’t match, but that Western astrologers don’t deal with stars — as some other branches of astrology do — but rather the planets and solar system.
“If they’re going to question its foundations,” he said in an e-mail, referring to scientific skeptics, “they should at least learn it well enough to know what they’re talking about.”
Mr. Brezsny said the argument that the zodiac was off kilter was old news but he was shocked how fast the Star Tribune article — inspired by a blog item on the LiveScience Web site — caught fire. "
It is what it is.
